Sympathy for our police force in advance of Saturday night

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I do not envy you one bit. I know we all talk about wanting to be safe, but honestly, you lot have the shitty end of the stick right now. I don't know how you can make a job like that safe. I hope that people are sensible and it is not as bad as we fear.

Good luck for tomorrow night and take care as much as you can.

From another thread.
TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 Fri 03-Jul-20 17:30:51
Just been reading the Wetherspoons FAQs, it doesn’t seem that they support the measures. I would imagine there will be plenty of other pubs with a similar outlook.

They will be operating the contact tracing piece by asking people to fill in a form and drop it in a box on their way out.

The FAQ for “ Do I have to complete the form?” is “ While it is neither a legal requirement for you to provide this information when visiting our pubs nor an insistence by us that you do, NHS Test and Trace is an important tool for the NHS in the fight against the spread of COVID-19 – and we encourage all customers to complete a form.”

So No then.

It goes on like that, they won’t be having pre-booked tables, or people on the door managing the flow of customers, and are clear that they have no responsibility for enforcing group size or social distancing.

www.jdwetherspoon.com/contact/faqs/covid19/uk-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

Mate they're going to Camden High Street, not the Somme

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Just another illustration that we are a nation of beer guzzling morons.

Mate they're going to Camden High Street, not the Somme.

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Most pubs round here are restricted numbers and early close (10pm) think there will of been more disorder at all the protests and illegal raves that have been going on that the pubs chucking out time

@MorrisZapp

Mate they're going to Camden High Street, not the Somme.

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It's grim isn't it. Just knowing this will be horrible for the emergency services and bar staff. They have my sympathy.

It is most unfair on the NHS: A and E, intensive care and the ambulance service. They have had terrible few months dealing with desperately ill people suffering from a virus. Now they might be faced with desperately ill people suffering from alcohol intoxication, injuries from fighting and accidents - all unnecessary and self-inflicted. Just so the economy doesn't suffer any more. Plus the virus is still around in relatively high numbers so the NHS can look forward to more Covid-19 patients after patching up this weekend's idiots.

So many people will go out tomorrow, get hammered, not social distance but then stand on their doorstep at 5pm on Sunday to clap for the NHS on their anniversary. They just don’t seem to see their own hypocrisy!

The early opening sounds quite sensible to me. The overwhelming majority of people won't be there at 6am, even the ones who are desperate for a pint, so it'll spread people out. Opening in the evening would potentially lead to more problems if everyone was arriving at once.

Is there a time limit to stay in the pub. Afaik it is 90 minutes here including paying for a meal no meal no beer, obviously some will use it as a 90 minute pub crawl per bar.

@HeIenaDove it is awful very irresponsible employers.

@Emeraldshamrock

Is there a time limit to stay in the pub. Afaik it is 90 minutes here including paying for a meal no meal no beer, obviously some will use it as a 90 minute pub crawl per bar.

No, unless the pub/restaurant choose to. I had the same conversation with an irish colleague this week re. mandated pub crawl!

I suspect it will be a damp squib

Not all the pubs near me are opening and all of those that are require a table to be booked. The pubs will be much less busy than normal. Not sure about Wetherspoons though.

It seems that people want it to go badly just so can they say I told you so.

I feel for the door staff and security. It's going to be carnage. There will be plenty of revellers who will behave absolutely atrociously. And it's the door staff who will be in the line of fire first.

Luckily I'm shielded so I haven't lost my rest days. But thank fcuk I'm off this weekend. Just finished a manic night shift at 7am (at home) and that was bad enough.

And a PP up thread who said police don't help with dv? A lot of the calls here in the Midlands are da and many of them can't be followed up properly due to the victims then refusing to cooperate. Police can only do so much and short of dragging them in, what else is there? I have never ever heard it said that it's the victim's fault. It's not like the old days now.

Do you have any idea how few officers are on the streets? It's quite usual to only have 5 double crewed response on a busy Saturday night in a major city.

And the idiot pm decides pubs can open on a Saturday, when the sensible thing would have been a Monday when people are tired after going back to work and have to get up the next day.

It might not be the Somme, but it's likely to look like Beirut.

It seems that people want it to go badly just so can they say I told you so

I am really quite keen for people not to get ill and die unnecessarily, as it turns out. But you think what you like.

The pubs near me are opening with significantly reduced hours and some not until Monday. Just because Boris says they can doesn't mean they will.

No doubt there be some places where it will be 'carnage', a lot like most Saturday nights before march 20th. Surely this is going to be back to normal?

it is awful very irresponsible employers

Wetherspoons are following the law, its the govt who have acted very irresponsible here.
Good friend of mine runs a pub, she says almost everything is "If you can....."

I really hope it is calm and assessed in its government-promoted re-opening, but if it is not then it really is not fair on the NHS after all they have been through to inflict drunken idiots on it now. Yes, it is like that every Friday/Saturday night in normal times, but the NHS really don't need this right now and our priorities should have changed and we should all have learnt something about what is important in life after what we have been through. But I will be very glad if Monday comes around and there is nothing to report. Fingers crossed. Unfortunately it only takes a very tiny proportion of the population to spoil things for everyone and make us all look bad.

@MorrisZapp

Mate they're going to Camden High Street, not the Somme.

Excellent response

Only 1/3 of pubs in our area are opening. Nothing like a bit of media hype about being like new year's eve to get the public frothing, though.