Do I understand correctly ....

[UntamedWisteria]

... that under the new rules, from Saturday, a maximum of two households can meet up inside, provided they keep 1m + apart?

But any number of different households can meet up in a pub, provided they keep 1m + apart.

And if that's correct, how does that make ANY sense at all??????

Yep. My (tiny) local pub can have 42 inside. Don’t know how to explain that either

One helps the economy which funds the NHS, schools, police etc and one doesn't......Only reasoning I can see

All the guidance I’ve seen from the pubs opening locally is that they’ll only take bookings for a group of no more than two households. So yes, other households will be in there, but not as part of your group/who you’re meeting up with. A few have been very specific that if they suspect larger groups are making different bookings to get round this they will be cancelled/asked to leave.

my local pub is only opening for drinks though, bookings would only apply if you were eating ....

Correct, and it makes no sense. Also two households in Wales (of any size - like a bubble) will be able to meet up inside with no social distancing! Whereas in England, we can only hug a person who lives on their own. Wales will be able to have, say, two families of ten hug each other. That makes no sense to me at all either.

In a pub etc you're in public view so much less likely to relax the social distancing than you would in a home.

You will probably still have to give contact details to the pub even if they are only serving drinks

So yes, other households will be in there, but not as part of your group/who you’re meeting up with.
I think this, along with being in public and more likely to stick to social distancing are key differences. The guidance for going to pubs /restaurants says something about not talking to or spending time with people from any other household than the one or two in your party, even if you see someone you know at another table. So yes you may be close to other households but you won't be talking to them or sitting face to face to them, or doing anything else which could increase any risk.

@MiddlesexGirl

In a pub etc you're in public view so much less likely to relax the social distancing than you would in a home.

You really think that after the 3rd pint of beer or large glass of sauvignon people are going to think like that?

@ineedaholidaynow

You will probably still have to give contact details to the pub even if they are only serving drinks

Yes, true - but if people come to my house I would already have their contact details, so no difference there really. And if they get a positive test, will pubs contact everyone who was in there that night, or just the people at adjacent tables? What about using the loos?

I know why it is like this - it's for the economy - but it still doesn't help people to make sensible decisions.

A friend of mine is inviting 4 other families round to her house this weekend. She thinks it's allowed by the rules now, as long as everyone stays 1m apart.

@DamitJanet

All the guidance I’ve seen from the pubs opening locally is that they’ll only take bookings for a group of no more than two households. So yes, other households will be in there, but not as part of your group/who you’re meeting up with. A few have been very specific that if they suspect larger groups are making different bookings to get round this they will be cancelled/asked to leave.

Sorry just using your post as its easier...not disagreeing with you at all

At one of our local pubs you don’t need to book, i think they may also struggle to see if people have booked lots of smaller groups in to pull a fast one as lots of people ‘know’ each other

They’ve got to do the best they can obviously

They aren't opening the pubs because it's safe to do so. They are opening them to support the economy. They don't want more businesses shutting down and workers to stay furloughed or even lose their jobs.
While meeting people at home, doesn't contribute to that. Does it?
Don't understand the confusion.
It's not safe. It's just a measure to open the economy.

@new2move has it spot on. It’s all about the money

my local pub is only opening for drinks though, bookings would only apply if you were eating

I thought you had to book a table regardless of whether you wanted to eat and no standing was allowed.

Not in my local cologne

The 'rules' won't be enforced—they are just to save the government face. Pissed people let off the leash will not be social distancing and some 20-year old barmaid is not going to force a gang of lager louts to stop hugging one another.

I’m really confused as to how pubs are going to work. From what I’ve read 2 households can meet inside but still adhere to social distancing, ideally 2m or alternatively 1m plus. So for example if me and DH went to the pub with a friend and her DH we would all have to be sat 2m away from each other or sit 1m and have to wear a mask/ visor?

Also the groups of 6 from different households is only for outside bookings but I’ve seen a few pubs locally accepting booking of upto 6 for inside and not specified that this can only be a mix of 2 households . Also would the 6 people inside at one table all be able to social distance 2m as clearly no ones going to be wearing a mask when eating / drinking.
From what I’ve seen on my social media this week, groups arranging their first big night out this weekend, I think it’s fairly obvious that many people are not going to follow the guidelines and even less so after a few drinks.
The government can then blame the public if / when we have a spike of cases.

@Blue1316

I’m really confused as to how pubs are going to work. From what I’ve read 2 households can meet inside but still adhere to social distancing, ideally 2m or alternatively 1m plus. So for example if me and DH went to the pub with a friend and her DH we would all have to be sat 2m away from each other or sit 1m and have to wear a mask/ visor?

Also the groups of 6 from different households is only for outside bookings but I’ve seen a few pubs locally accepting booking of upto 6 for inside and not specified that this can only be a mix of 2 households . Also would the 6 people inside at one table all be able to social distance 2m as clearly no ones going to be wearing a mask when eating / drinking.
From what I’ve seen on my social media this week, groups arranging their first big night out this weekend, I think it’s fairly obvious that many people are not going to follow the guidelines and even less so after a few drinks.
The government can then blame the public if / when we have a spike of cases.

This is exactly what I am confused about. The guidelines suggest you take into account social distancing when choosing where at a table to sit if with another household, and that the pub or restaurant is supposed to help with that. I assumed that meant 2 households like the example you mention would be able to be seated at two tables for 2 next to each other, or would be able to sit at a table for say 6 to allow for space between them. I mentioned this on another thread and someone who works in a restaurant said their boss wouldn't want empty spaces at a table and wouldn't be able to accommodate people wanting to sit at adjacent tables.