If you area a teacher married to another teacher how will the year group bubbles work

[Jenasaurus]

Just occurred to me that this could be an issue as the bubbles would basically double up. Some may even teach at a different school. Any thoughts on how this risk could be reduced. Quite worried for teachers at the moment tbh.

Glad someone is......

I'm not married to another teacher, but my own children will be in 3 different bubbles.

There's no getting away from bubble mixing, children in different years / schools and their siblings will be mixing some of them will have parents who are teachers etc.

Or a teacher with children part of big bubbles dd2 is in a year group of 350! Dd1 going into year12 and no idea of size of that year group yet!
Ds in his bubble of 30 and me in my bubble of 30 - that's a lot of people!

But we still can't hug family!

Arent the staff allowed to cross bubbles anyway? They'll have to in secondary at least.

Either we'll be back to square one or bubbles will be a thing of the past by Sept, there's no way schools can provide a "full curriculum" as GW was so keen to state they will and keep properly separate bubbles.

@HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime

There's no getting away from bubble mixing, children in different years / schools and their siblings will be mixing some of them will have parents who are teachers etc.

Very true, its not going to work is it?

My sons at a nursery where most the kids there have older sibling which all go to about 8 different schools. My other sons at a preschool with all kids who have siblings at different nurseries and schools: so that alone must be a huge bubble! I think the whole bubble thing is pointless anyone- my sons bubble changes every single day so he might as well just play with all 30 as he is over the week anyway! I think bubbles are just being done to be seen to be doing something! Most kids have siblings in diff bubbles and that alone will probs make bubbles of 100s!!

As a secondary school teachers there’s no way I could just teach one year group is I’ll be in every year group bubble so in my schools that’s 1,700 kids... !!

I think we have to get over the idea the bubbles will remain separate. They just won’t. It’s impossible. So either we get on with it & do the best we can or we just shut schools & everyone carry on whinging about homeschooling/working .. not long ago people were up in arms about the fact we were failing our kids when only three years went back. Now the same people are up in arms about the fact all kids can go back.

Damned if you, damned if you don’t.

Well surely the vast majority of teachers have a family. The vast majority of teacher's partners will have a job, the vast majority of their kids will go to school (or have a job if older). Some of those jobs will be much lower risk of Covid-19 than teaching, some much higher. So surely it will make absolutely no difference if the partner is a teacher. In my children's school one in ten of the kids have a parent who is a teacher (not a scientific survey, may just be their friends) - if I stop and think about Covid-19 risk, they are probably more at risk from the children of nurses.
Most teacher couples work at different schools (although I once worked with colleagues who were mother- daughter, the mum was a TA). I imagine it will work in the same way as every other teacher's family who work in nursing, care, accountancy and window fitting.

I'm not a teacher but i was wondering it too. The whole thing seems unworkable.

DS travels by train with 6 other year groups (plus 7 year groups travelling to another school). Are they going to seperate them all on the train?

But we could say that about any job, myself, DH and dc all work, not teachers, but we are in separate "bubbles"

God knows. Can't say too much as outing but DH and I both secondary teachers..

@bol87 you're right. Bubbles don't stop interactions they help reduce them.

I suppose if the bubbles aren't going to work, they may as well just follow the other guidelines, all children face the front and be 1m apart. Handwashing and if unwell not to go to school and get tested/isolate for 7 days. I can see in flu season the schools will be empty.

The guidance basically says 'do what you can, as every bit helps'.

"Endeavouring to keep these groups at least partially separate and minimising contacts between children will still offer public health benefits as it reduces the network of possible direct transmission."

and

"Both the approaches of separating groups and maintaining distance are not ‘all-or-nothing’ options, and will still bring benefits even if implemented partially."

I have 3 girls in 2 schools in September. Two of them will be in bubbles of about 300 and the other will be getting a taxi to school, etc. Then, DH works in 4 different schools across each week. So that's 6 schools and 7 'bubbles' our family will mix with, before we take into account anything outside the school time.

The bubbles are to help reduce transmission. Yes, people in bubbles in schools may mix outside them in the home. But there will be fewer opportunities for transmission.

After school clubs are to be restarted from September too, that's going to be a nice mix of year groups and schools in one room!

Of course bubbles can never be completely ‘closed’. But by creating bubbles at school we reducing social contact. The number of children that my child may come in to contact with will reduce from several hundred down to 30.

Work in a school nursery which will have 31 in our bubble. Then have 3 secondary aged children in bubbles of 250 each plus a primary aged child ina class of 30 and a year group of 115. That’s a lot of children off if one person tests positive

The idea of bubbles kind of made sense when they were 15 kids.

It gets a bit pointless when you have sizes of 240 where most of whose members will ignore sd as soon as they are out of a teacher supervision, will mix freely with each other in the community walking home once they are at home.

If test and trace was more effective and timely then that would help. If anyone in the bubble gets covid with up to 70% asymptotic ( which could conceivable be quite likely with kids) it could be quite
Widespread before someone gets tested. It also looks like there is no intention to isolate the bubble unless an outbreak is categorisd so it may spread still further before a mobile testing station etc is sent in.

This all relies on low incidence in the community. Interesting to see what happens saturday. Lets hope opening pubs does not have similar effects to what it did in the US.

My DC are adults now so not at school, but I do feel for parents, teachers, its like a balancing act, between keeping safe and receiving an education.

How’s it going to work for mixed yr group classes?

Hippo - in primary? Bubble is class, not year group.

Sorry, I’m sure I read/heard that there was going to be yr group bubbles. Confusing.

I'm a teacher and I have two children, all three of us are at different schools. The year group bubble is ludicrous imo. There doesn't seem to be any point, there are too many points at which bubbles both within and between schools will mix.