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Schools plans for September

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Autumnwalksx · 02/07/2020 11:16

Just had a parent mail from DD school. She's in reception. She will be going into year one in September.

Just had an email to say from September.

No reading books or bags will be given.

No pe kit is allowed in school or or bags. They have to wear pe kit on the days they have pe and stay in it all day.

No school bags are allowed.

If schools are safe to be open then why the heck can't a child have a bag. What's the difference between that an a coat?

No reading books seems rubbish! Isn't reading important???

How is it ok to do a pe lesson in the clothes but it's too risky to put those clothes in a or bag for next week?

How is any of this going to make an overall difference when there's 24 kids in each clsssroom!

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Juststopswimming · 02/07/2020 16:06

@Icecreamsandthebeach

Lives matter until September the 4th. Then it's take a chance on your health because we have to get the country going again. So they have decided we all have to send our kids back or face a fine. Last month you were a moron if you mixed with your family. But September your kids can go back to school. If it's such a small risk. Then let the kids have a book! Let the kids have a hot dinner. Let the kids hold hands and play alongside their friends in the same class? The fact those things are not happening speak a thousand words. The truth is if your kids did those things cases would rise. Eventually teachers would be down. Parents would end up with it. Some parents will end up in hospital. The odd child may get a bad case. So therefore it's not safe yet

But what do you want the government to do?

How can they ever make it 100% safe?

Absolutely this. As a society we have a lost all reasonable sense of what "safe" is and what is a normal risk to take. The long term psychological damage we have done with this lockdown and the fear culture that has been created is quite breathtaking.

If you dont think schools are safe then crack on with permanent homeschooling.

oldbagface · 02/07/2020 16:07

@nellodee or children or parents

Messageinateacup · 02/07/2020 16:08

Safe.

nellodee · 02/07/2020 17:10

I'd bet that the vast majority of the people involved in writing these plans have children in private schools in class sizes of 15 or less on massive sites. Their safe and my safe are two very different things, I imagine.

FrippEnos · 02/07/2020 17:15

Are posters really questioning why the pupils will be going in in PE kit?

Quartz2208 · 02/07/2020 17:27

Nope DD is due to start a 240 a year secondary school (Bulge year so school set up for 210 a year) DS is in a 90 a year primary. DD is back for this half term

I firmly believe it is a choice and PPE supplied but I do think the risk of continuing to keep children out of school is more

That said area I think does have a bearing but only 2 places currently have more than 50 infections in 100000 Leicester and Merthyr tidfail

Quartz2208 · 02/07/2020 17:29

Realised you said wrote guidance not those who are saying it’s ok on here sorry

ItsSummer · 02/07/2020 17:39

@Autumnwalksx

We get that you can get hit by a car or die from flu bla blabla.

They can not open up schools unless they are "safe" enough. They have suddenly decided September will have to be safe whether it is or not. They want all kids back. They've decided they can go back but it won't be how it used to be. Because it isnt actually safe yet. So why can't they be honest with the country.

Lives matter until September the 4th. Then it's take a chance on your health because we have to get the country going again. So they have decided we all have to send our kids back or face a fine. Last month you were a moron if you mixed with your family. But September your kids can go back to school. If it's such a small risk. Then let the kids have a book! Let the kids have a hot dinner. Let the kids hold hands and play alongside their friends in the same class? The fact those things are not happening speak a thousand words. The truth is if your kids did those things cases would rise. Eventually teachers would be down. Parents would end up with it. Some parents will end up in hospital. The odd child may get a bad case. So therefore it's not safe yet

Yes! Totally agree.
ItsSummer · 02/07/2020 17:51

Safe = ideally community spread under 1 person per person.

There’s no magic answer - it’s a global pandemic. Maybe we have to do things before it’s safe.

But let’s not pretends things are hunky dory. It’s the lies and misinformation that grates.

ItsSummer · 02/07/2020 18:04

Safe in the meantime could mean proper PPE for school staff. Screens between staff and pupils in certain places.

FGS safe could mean actually having proper soap in school.

oldbagface · 02/07/2020 18:11

But it also need to be safe for children and parents. Not just teachers. And to clarify, I am extremely supportive of teachers staff and think they get some very undeserved bashing on here.

Bol87 · 02/07/2020 18:24

@Autumnwalksx - back to your original queries rather than being bulldozed by unhappy parents, heres the new guidance for schools on bags & books. You could def challenge your school on why they aren’t following this guidance. Bags are allowed & books.

Schools plans for September
ItsSummer · 02/07/2020 19:01

@oldbagface

But it also need to be safe for children and parents. Not just teachers. And to clarify, I am extremely supportive of teachers staff and think they get some very undeserved bashing on here.
I suppose my implication is that safe for staff = safe for children.

For example, a mask doesn’t so much protect the wearer, but those around them. The more people wearing a mask, the safer overall (understanding that young children are better off not wearing masks).

ItsSummer · 02/07/2020 19:01

And screens offer mutual protection, for example.

NannyOgg66 · 02/07/2020 19:13

@ItsSummer

Because they're not fucking safe to open. They're just opening anyway.
Completely agree. Cambridge, Oxford and Eaton are not opening until 2021. MP's and the people in charge aren't sending their kids back September and those that do will be in private schools with smaller class numbers and more frequent cleaning. I suspect though that most private schools will not open. The government don't give a shit how many of us plebs die or get ill. This is about getting parents back to work to help the economy rather than it is now safe to do so. Unlike Scotland we are not down to zero cases and the government still think it is ok to open pubs at weekend FFS. How teachers are supposed to make primary (or any age to be fair) kids social distance I do not know.
Roasties89 · 02/07/2020 19:21

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oldbagface · 02/07/2020 19:22

@ItsSummer yes agreed. Sorry if I seemed pedantic. It's just that parents seem to have been forgotten, teachers are nothing but fodder to some and there is an assumption that all children will be fine. Sorry, I'm very cross at the situation

ItsSummer · 02/07/2020 19:24

Same here Flowers

Barbie222 · 02/07/2020 19:35

That guidance has only come out today, so things at your school might change between now and September.

I agree, it doesn't fill you with confidence, but as we're constantly told, it's time for us all to get on with it now and that includes the children.

Yurona · 02/07/2020 19:37

Our primary school is fully back for 3 weeks now, with these rules. Its awesome. So much less faff in the morning. Stuff stays at school, and bags aren’t needed. PE kit on in the morning, and they are fine for the day.
The only thing is reading books, but oxford reading tree has loads free online, so you don’t have to buy them.

3catsandcounting · 02/07/2020 19:50

No reading books in school bag doesn't mean no reading at all.
We read with all the children in our class today.

SoloMummy · 02/07/2020 19:56

@FrippEnos

Are posters really questioning why the pupils will be going in in PE kit?
Well, that's fine for those who drive. But do we really expect our children to wear shorts and plimsolls when it's bloody freezing, windy and rainy, when walking to the school and during playtime? Quite frankly, forego pe along with every other foundation subject!

That's my Los pe kit, totally different if it was jogging bottoms.

FrippEnos · 03/07/2020 09:11

SoloMummy

If that is your issue then send them in in jogging bottoms.

Just make it the staff don't have to help your child get changed.

Isolatedizzy · 03/07/2020 09:46

I don't think the Government do want them back, the Govt and SAGE know what will happen when they go back in conjunction with the other relaxations of lockdown down but the baying from the press and some parents means they have to go back dispute the fact it's not safe, not for teachers or other school staff!

FrippEnos · 03/07/2020 09:51

Isolatedizzy

I think that you are probably right. Its a grab to get more votes.

But the way that they have done this allows them to blame schools, teachers and unions.

And some people are dumb enough to fall for it.

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