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HM Treasury delete insensitive tweet about pubs reopening.

80 replies

HeIenaDove · 01/07/2020 23:40

Unfuckingreal. How bloody callous was that!

twitter.com/ladyjenkin/status/1278457533376737280?s=20

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Dillydallyingthrough · 02/07/2020 09:53

I like others cannot see how this is offensive, its actually ridiculous how offended people get at things like this. They stated a fact.

I have lost two people to Corona (neither elderly) which has been really hard to come to terms with but more because we as a family altogether haven't been able to grieve. I wont be going to the pub on sat but I imagine many will to be together raising glasses for loved ones they have lost. Not offensive in the slightest.

RaspberryToupee · 02/07/2020 09:57

Stop being fucking ridiculous. We can be sad that people have died and be happy that pubs are reopening. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. People are allowed to have a range of emotions and we often feel many emotions at the same time. Shocker!

So nobody is allowed to look forward to going on holiday or seeing their family because somewhere people have died? People have died of other things, and long after covid is gone, these things will still be killing people. Do we still have to refrain from doing anything fun then? Or can we only be sad about Covid deaths? When my grandma died, we had a weekend away just after the funeral. It helped to have something to focus on. My grief for my grandma didn’t disappear because we were doing something nice but it was better than sitting at home wallowing, although my happiness was a bit more poignant than would have been without those circumstances.

From the treasury’s point of view (the department in charge of finances) - we’ve borrowed a fuck tonne of money. We’ve diverted the whole of the NHS to tackle Covid and now have to find funding to deal with the huge backlog of missed appointments. Government departments have been redeployed to support the fight against covid but those jobs that haven’t been done for the last 4 months still need completing and those departments will likely require extra funding. The whole economy has stalled and there are huge job losses being declared daily across multiple industries. Putting it bluntly, we’re in the shit. Why would they not want the country finally generating a small amount of income?

Sparklingbrook · 02/07/2020 09:58

I don’t see the issue either.

HM Treasury  delete  insensitive tweet  about  pubs reopening.
MorrisZapp · 02/07/2020 10:02

Could we have a MN policy of screenshotting twitter posts, pretty please? My phone won't allow me to see any links to twitter since I closed my account, and wouldn't before I had an account either.

So many threads are started about twitter posts but for many of us it takes pages before we even find out what was said.

What was said, please?

Sparklingbrook · 02/07/2020 10:08

@MorrisZapp

Could we have a MN policy of screenshotting twitter posts, pretty please? My phone won't allow me to see any links to twitter since I closed my account, and wouldn't before I had an account either.

So many threads are started about twitter posts but for many of us it takes pages before we even find out what was said.

What was said, please?

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MaxNormal · 02/07/2020 10:12

I am failing to see the problem with that tweet.

ThatDamnScientist · 02/07/2020 10:21

@onalongsabbatical

When WW2 ended (I know, fucking old person dragging out old stories...) people celebrated, danced in the streets. No-one, literally no-one suggested it was insensitive. People understood the multiplicity of emotions and that you can be sincerely sad and regretful about some aspects of an event whilst celebrating others. Are people more stupid or sensitive now? I'm not sure. Is modern culture confused and confusing with too many partisan narratives unexamined and taken too seriously too quickly? Yes.
Difference is the WW was over, the pandemic isn't. Not comparable at all in my opinion.

I do think we are opening a bit too quickly but I can't I can't get frothed up about that tweet. I was expecting something far worse.

torydeathdrug · 02/07/2020 10:23

Are we required to live in perpetual mourning for the 1600 people who die daily in the UK or only for the ones who die of covid?

MorrisZapp · 02/07/2020 10:26

Thanks Sparkling. Well that was an anti climax! Christ on a bike a wine glass is offensive now? Absolutely ridiculous.

It's utterly normal to be pleased when a shit situation is over. Our economy is going to crash horrifically with many many times the casualties of Covid if we don't start living our lives soon. We actually need to get normality back, or generations will pay the price.

Sparklingbrook · 02/07/2020 10:27

@MorrisZapp

Thanks Sparkling. Well that was an anti climax! Christ on a bike a wine glass is offensive now? Absolutely ridiculous.

It's utterly normal to be pleased when a shit situation is over. Our economy is going to crash horrifically with many many times the casualties of Covid if we don't start living our lives soon. We actually need to get normality back, or generations will pay the price.

I clicked on the link with bated breath too. But that was literally it.
PicsInRed · 02/07/2020 10:39

Difference is the WW was over, the pandemic isn't. Not comparable at all in my opinion.

People were dancing in the streets for the end of war in Europe. Asia and the Pacific were still at gruesome war, the war with Russia was about to commence and the Nazi concentration camps were just being opened.

So fairly comparable, if anything, somewhat worse on the WW2 side.

Bramblebear92 · 02/07/2020 10:56

Wow what is the world coming to Hmm

Sharkerr · 02/07/2020 11:04

Thank you so much GabriellaMontez!

I have my best friends coming over Saturday, I’m so excited to show them my baby. A meal Monday at a restaurant with DH and DS, and some family coming during the week. And a baby group booked to start in late July :) just went to the clothes shops for the first time since lockdown with DS (I’ve taken him to food shops) and bought him a few nice bits as he grew out of his nice clothes and has just been in vests mostly since we’ve been at home. Feels so good to have a reason to dress him nicely!

I just can’t wait to get back to some semblance of normality. This has been hard.

Housewoes23 · 02/07/2020 11:08

Why is it any different to being happy at other businesses opening?

Is it the use of the word 'celebrate'? I guess that's a little clumsy.

But I don't doubt many who have lost loved ones will be also missing their local or having a drink with friends.

HeIenaDove · 02/07/2020 14:53

Fine I accept that i overreacted.

I just know what its going to be like where i live.

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AnyFucker · 02/07/2020 17:54

The pubs are going to be mobbed, for sure

Sparklingbrook · 02/07/2020 18:06

I am conflicted because the pubs need to open and make some money if the hospitality industry is to survive, but I don't want to go to the pub if there's signs and rules etc it's too much like hard work.

heyheyho · 02/07/2020 18:42

@AnyFucker

The pubs are going to be mobbed, for sure
No they won’t. They won’t be allowed to or they’ll lose their licence.
AnyFucker · 02/07/2020 18:51

I fear you are rather naive @heyheyho

SueEllenMishke · 02/07/2020 18:59

Really don't see the problem. My friends run a pub and need it to open as they need to earn money.

Ridiculous thing to get offended about.

Sparklingbrook · 02/07/2020 19:46

@AnyFucker

I fear you are rather naive *@heyheyho*
I think they will be mobbed and have to try and police it themselves which will be where the trouble starts. Then the actual police will be called and there you have the front page of the Daily Mail site.
toothfairy73 · 02/07/2020 20:00

I like the way they used the term "Spaffled up the wall". There are lots of people that will never forgive BoJo for using this phrase.

HeIenaDove · 02/07/2020 21:25

The staff at my local Tesco are dreading it They have three pubs near them in the same road and a Wetherspoons 3 mins walking distance. Some of the pub goers tend to go in that supermarket and kick off when they have been drinking.

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HeIenaDove · 02/07/2020 21:30

Ouside that very Wetherspoons two years ago just after an England
World Cup game. They surrounded her car.

www.essexlive.news/news/watch-braintree-england-fan-falls-1693318

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annabel85 · 03/07/2020 10:31

@Sparklingbrook

I am conflicted because the pubs need to open and make some money if the hospitality industry is to survive, but I don't want to go to the pub if there's signs and rules etc it's too much like hard work.
The problem is, if the pubs follow all or even most of the rules and regs then going to the pub will be a joyless experience. On the other hand if the pubs aren't following the rules then it's completely unsafe and would just mean more flare ups are inevitable.