Local Covid-19 outbreak in nursery

[frozendaisy]

20 pupils, staff and family members have tested positive at a local nursery, does not directly affect us but nursery was taking all precautions advised/it could. Presently closed.

I can only assume this is what next school year is going to be like. Sigh.

I am not sure how having the test come back in 24 hits changes much . Anyone who was in contact with a confirmed case ( is close for 15 mins+) has to isolate for 14 days even if they test and it comes back negative. The only time you don't have to self isolate is if you have symptoms and the rest comes back negative. In that case a quick test is a good idea so you only have to stay home a couple of days , though chances are if you took a test you are ill anyway and probably needed a couple of days off work

Or school is short-staffed? I just can't see logistically, on the ground, in real life, how schools can be, as things stand (i.e. presently no vaccine) full-time for all pupils.

Obviously the safety of all staff, children and families have to be foremost I am not dismissing this at all just pondering logistics.

As a teacher in a school nursery this really makes me nervous!

Most people on here don’t give a toss about the staff.

They just want a full return and everybody just to man up and deal with it.

A quick test would help because lots of children get coughs that aren't related to coronovirus. I've got a cough at the moment (not covid) and otherwise feel fine, just glad I was tested and could go back to normal life when I got the result.

Is this reported in the news at all?

It's a scary development. It would be good if it was reported.

The stuff about the nursery has.

The stuff about school cases is there if you know where to look. But most of the public don’t read Schools Week!

Op, may I know which nursery this is?
It should have made news but hasn't yet. So I am thinking there might be many more outbreaks like this one.

Are you in England OP?

Milton Keynes area - google has a few hits now for an outbreak there at a nursery.

I thought it was in Bournemouth

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-outbreak-nursery-20-children-22253165.amp

Except, Corona probably isn’t going to kill most teachers us it? Shielding ones shouldn’t be back at work. 99% of everyone else will just get ill & recover. As per all the illnesses that fly round nurseries & schools.

I quit teaching a couple years ago but I wouldn’t be kicking up a fuss. Covid is predominantly killing the elderly. Which is heartbreaking. But at least it’s sparing the young with their lives ahead.

come September onwards this might become a logistical nightmare for all education settings and families

It's making me incredibly stressed about September. I'm not concerned about gettin COVID particularly (rightly or wrongly). I'm concerned about the realities of trying to gap fill a very mixed ability class, on my own in a bubble without a TA, when on top of all the normal challenges in a deprived school with lots of behaviour difficulties, I've also got kids in and out all over the place. It's going to be an awful year. My partner and I have already decided that if it's just too much to deal with, mentally, then I leave at Christmas.

I worry it's going to finish some head teachers off completely.

How about older teachers? The government said, if the vaccine works, the first people will be health care workers and over 50’s

So they are at an increased risk. But hey, they’re older so don’t really count.

Corona probably isn’t going to kill most teachers us it?

Teachers (primary mostly) are an unhealthy bunch.
Longer term significant issues are a 'thing' with covid.
Just because most teachers won't die of it, doesn't mean we can just go all guns blazing into September.
Teachers have died of it. 11.8 per 100,000 I think was the number - compared to 12.7 of female carers. We worry about carers, why haven't we worried about teachers in the same way?

God !!! That statistic is shocking!

I need to find the exact numbers - it wasn't very different though. Shocked me a bit too.

There have been, newsworthy, a primary school in Kent, couple in Derby, they were only back a week and closed again, which is perhaps not such a logistical headache, but come October when furlough is intended to end, bug season kicks in, is Covid-19 going to be gone from the UK, or are schools going to be expected to loosen measures? I just can't see how full-time all students will be possible if you as a parent/ family have to isolate/test/await results each bubble/,family fever if these conditions remain in place.

With the best will in the world's think we are a while off "normal" for education. And I presume it will be for families to juggle solutions. I've heard the briefings and tried to read the reports on schools and just think the MPs are living in cloud-cuckoo land.

It doesn't matter how it may not kill younger adults. There's a long tail illness being reported with damage to the body. Some people are making out this is a sickness that will go away in 7 or 14 days and no one knows how their body is going to react to the virus. For some people the virus is caus8damge in the body without killing them. Who wants to live like that?

It makes sense to minimise as much risk as possible.

We just can't predict what will happen right now so there's no point worrying about it.

Yes i think we may have had it in Apr. At peak so no testing. We were being so careful we havent even been out for walks so we either got whatever this was
From a supermarket delivery person
Or from dc2 who was ill week after half term and still coughing into april but it was a month later we got ill and she seemed to get ill again!
Anyway ive got asthma and i just havent been right since (i only take ventolin and really only with a cold/flu). So the gp said i wasnt really asthmatic...
But ive got SOB and rib/stomach pain and feel worse in this heat and had to take ventolin because someone had a BBQ which has never happened before. Relating to teachers though, i have a 4yo and at points ive struggled trying to read with/to her. So there is no way i could teach like this. Feeling SOB also makes me feel irritable because when working with dc1 im having to tell her off etc using a lot of lung capacity. Im only early 40s...
I dont think it's necessarily lung damage as i have days feeling ok. It's more oversensitive.

Keep distance, I read your post and just wanted to ask. You don’t take a preventative inhaler? Just ventolin if needed. This is what I do. I very rarely need inhaler, certain household cleaning products and bonfires irritate my chest a bit. And I need it if going out running. But I have started to wonder if I should have a preventative inhaler what with coronavirus going around. Are you saying you had Covid already? Did it bother your asthma much?

@bumbling i guess they mean test back quick as in the person who
Originally reports symptoms so you know if confirmed case or not
Ie child has temp school so sent home all are told to self isolate aa showed symptoms but test comes back from original child and not covid so all can go back - well thats my understanding or is it something different ?

We may have had it. Yes only usually ventolin. I got a preventer just before lockdown but didnt use it. Wasnt sure if it might lower immune system.
I didnt feel wheezy like usual and it was a dry cough unlike normal flu type things so you couldnt try to clear out by coughing the phlegm up. Ive been strangely tight chested ever since then.
However i also have hypothyroidism and pcos (which has high blood sugar). So im prone to inflammation anyway so it's possible any reaction could be more those things though not listed. Thyroid is autoimmune.

When i was ill my ventolin didnt seem to help which is different to a normal cold.
I saw in usa some people getting nebuliser so an asthma treatment.
And the 'new' dexamethasone is steriod.
7% of the uk covid deaths have had asthma. Which is probably a similar number to that in the population.
Im still not taking the preventer. I guess i dont want to believe i now need it and i wouldnt know if this has gone away maybe