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Have I got this right - playgrounds

125 replies

edgeware · 20/06/2020 16:24

Playgrounds in Scotland will be open from the 29th of June I believe - but playgrounds in England will stay shut until Autumn? The leaked plans for after the 4th of July seem to say they will stay completely shut? Sad

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InfiniteGerbils · 20/06/2020 21:59

@TotorosFurryBehind

Rest assured that if you’re anything like my part of Scotland your playgrounds will be “invaded” before long... and good thing too.

The one beside me was jumping today, it was like life had begun again. Didn’t realise how quiet it had been found that part of town until I heard the ear splitting screams of kids on a merry go round LOVING IT.

Catastrofuck · 20/06/2020 22:02

That was precisely my understanding Molocosh

I don’t actually believe that “signs, lines on the floor, screens between swings, hourly cleaning, etc” are remotely necessary in this case but I appreciate that currently this is the sort of guidance that must be followed

I think this is going to be the case with all sorts of things that were low cost daily activities sadly

Catastrofuck · 20/06/2020 22:03

Ours are chained on the gates. Maybe someone will crack and take along bolt cutters (I’m not physically capable of climbing the fence as I have my baby in a sling as well as the toddler)

Molocosh · 20/06/2020 22:06

I think this is going to be the case with all sorts of things that were low cost daily activities sadly
Yes. If there’s no money to be made then it’s not worth the investment in signs and plastic screens etc. We wouldn’t dare reopen the playground without that stuff in place but we can’t afford to buy it.

joan12 · 20/06/2020 22:07

In our park we have outdoor gym equipment for adults (open) next to a kids playground (closed.) There is no difference between the two. Adults touch, hold the equipment, never seen anyone sanitise it, they congregate around it. At least parents usually have gel and wipes and are conscious of wiping things down!

Alsohuman · 20/06/2020 22:08

Ours is open. The (broken) lock’s been removed so has the sign.

Catastrofuck · 20/06/2020 22:09

Life with toddlers is not going to get much easier sadly :(

I miss being able to take him to the library or museums (completely free activities other than sometimes paying for parking). No one is going to allow toddlers anywhere indoors because they can’t observe social distancing. This winter is going to be utterly shit.

Catastrofuck · 20/06/2020 22:11

It’s actually barring small children (and hence the (usually) women who care for them) from public life

Waterdropsdown · 20/06/2020 22:12

www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-reopen-playgrounds

Signed the petition - well done for starting it

helpfulperson · 20/06/2020 22:17

It's not really about the risk of any particular situation. The more people mix and are potentially exposed the higher the overall rate. Which potentially transmitting activities you allow and which you ban doesnt really matter- you just cant do them all.

Catastrofuck · 20/06/2020 22:25

Indeed, but the fact that money-making activities are allowed but many of those that free are not - and even if they were there isn’t the budget to make them “safe” - means that only people from certain groups are able to access these activities. It’s legitimate to comment on that.

Alsohuman · 20/06/2020 22:37

We wouldn’t dare reopen the playground without that stuff in place but we can’t afford to buy it

Why on earth not if the government deems it safe to open them without all that stuff?

PinkDaydreams · 20/06/2020 22:40

Signed the petition and commented, thank you!

www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-reopen-playgrounds

toinfinityandlockdown · 20/06/2020 22:40

Will write to my MP. It's totally outrageous that pubs can open (and I doubt they will be disinfecting every surface, every time) whilst outdoor playgrounds are shut. They really must open for the summer holidays at the latest. If parents all write to our MPs maybe it will apply some pressure, since that's all the government will listen to. The person above who said pubs have lobbyists was spot on, sadly.

HairyToity · 20/06/2020 22:42

I feel sad about no playgrounds, but to be honest mine have been quite happy with woodland walks and paddling in river. They don't seem bothered. I think I'd be too nervous about high touch surfaces and getting within 2 metres of other children.

Catastrofuck · 20/06/2020 23:02

How great that you have easy access to those things HairyToity. I do too, and we have managed without also, but I would still like to see ours open. However I’m not concerned that it would be high risk or require the kind of cleaning etc that seems to be expected

Notcontent · 20/06/2020 23:04

I really feel for so many parents of small children. I am a lone parent and when my dd was little we used to spend hours at the playground or if the weather wasn’t good we would go to the library or visit museums, etc. - anything to break up the monotony of just being stuck at home with a small person that needs entertaining.

Catastrofuck · 20/06/2020 23:05

I have to say that from my POV it’s much more the symbolic aspect that I have a problem with that demonstrates clearly as a poster upthread put it

“So if you are a child in a family with no money you:

Don’t have a car so can’t drive somewhere for a walk (Strictly speaking isn’t public transport still for essential journeys only)
Can’t play on a playground
May not have access to own green space
May not have technology to access school stuff

But if you’re in a family with money you can
Get taken to a theme park (from July)
Go on holiday abroad
Drive somewhere different and new fo a walk
Have the tech you need/access to online facilities and learning.”

time4anothername · 20/06/2020 23:09

Yes, it seems really unfair on children without gardens, car etc. There was good news about a treatment regime for the tiny percentage of children who get a severe reaction to Covid www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/20/treatment-breakthrough-means-mysterious-covid-linked-kawasaki/ so perhaps things can relax a bit more now?

WombOfOnesOwn · 20/06/2020 23:33

To me this seems like a population control measure, making sure people see life with children as even more difficult than before, and thus preventing any baby boom that might have come about as a result of the pandemic.

BogRollBOGOF · 20/06/2020 23:47

I happened to find a new playground yesterday. Presumably it had been taped up at some point, but the gate was open and the equipment avaliable.

The DCs had a glorious hour playing. It opened up their imaginations. I sat on a bench freezing in a sharp breeze but their happiness made is totally worthwhile.

DS1 has dyspraxia. It was a joy to watch him climb and balance and use his body in a multitude of ways that we can't in out small garden. He has to relearn how to ride a bike after every winter. I'm concerned about the atrophy of his hard won physical skills such as swimming that have taken many years to develop. Access to playgrounds can help to stop that loss of muscle memory and strength.

There are so many surfaces accessible that are at least the same risk- benches, hand rails. When my DCs were done, I sanitised their hands. The reality is that they've played in trees and make-shift equipment lashed together with sticks and rope.

They've spent 3 months out of school. Haven't been able to see family since Christmas for various reasons. Haven't seen friends. They are lonely and understimulated and another 2+ months before they'll get back to school and any semblence of normality. They've been walked, and walked and walked (often past depressingly padlocked playgrounds). They are children. They need more than that. This is a big part of their lives so far (and more so for younger children).

The less that is avaliable for children to do, the less measured risks will be taken (especially by older ones) Opening playgrounds as usual is safer than alternatives that will occur anyway. Parents can manage their children as they see fit, cleaning hands, ignoring if they must.

Children's needs seem to be ignored at every step of the way through this and they are paying a high price for the least health benefit with long term consequences.

BogRollBOGOF · 20/06/2020 23:50

First law of the playground: don't get to close to the swings.

Playgrounds-teaching social distancing before it was a Thing Wink

IfNotNowThenWhen2 · 20/06/2020 23:51

The playgrounds near me are all being used now. They might not be open but kids are just climbing over the gates. Fair play to them, they've had enough.

Thanosatemthamster · 20/06/2020 23:54

We were in a playground today. I'd planned to tell dc they could only kick a ball about but not go on the equipment, but there were so many other kids playing I couldn't bring myself to. We know they will be officially open in a week here anyway.
I followed them round with hand sanitiser and the adults were all in their own areas so I wasn't close to any of them. Dc2 especially seemed very happy. I'd didn't see any other children cleaning their hands though.

IfNotNowThenWhen2 · 20/06/2020 23:55

I feel sad about no playgrounds, but to be honest mine have been quite happy with woodland walks and paddling in river. They don't seem bothered. I think I'd be too nervous about high touch surfaces and getting within 2 metres of other children

Oh FFS.
Yeah, that's lovely for you, with your woodland walks and rivers. Do you have any idea how many kids have no access to these things?