Special time to go out for shielding

[Orangeblossom78]

Thought you might like this film, petition too. For the other scary people to stay in so the others can go out without having to see any of them

I'd tell DH as he is on the same meds but he is out at work today sadly

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-53083614/coronavirus-we-need-a-designated-shielding-hour

With DH, he has to wear a visor and have temp checks (manufacturing) but yes it is stressful going back into the world. he is careful, but as the workforce all start to go back it concerns me - but he needs the money (self employed)

But yes as Irma says they need to make their own risk assessment as well.

Everyone else stays in for an hour is unworkable. People have to be out at certain times for work or caring roles. We have been going out early in the morning for years to avoid other people because ds is severely autistic and prior to that I did early morning runs in a city with few people about. If you want to just get out for a hour it is possible in most places.

My dad is shielding. His house is in a tourist hotspot so the only time he can get out for a walk is at 5am. Otherwise the pavements are full.

We live in a city which is a tourist hotspot but we have no tourists atm, so not such a problem. However weekends are quite busy. But here mine knows it is low risk and goes running whenever.

Agree with you at @Orangeblossom78 it is unworkable.

If you want other people to respect the 2m distance either wear a mask, take a small child, take a dog or preferably do all 3.

A relative takes two dogs! that seems to help

I just don't see how it would work. What time would you pick? You'd have to find a time when people weren't travelling to/from work which would be pretty impossible given how many people work shifts outside a "typical" 9-5. Should some shift workers have to get to work an hour early/leave an hour late so that they're not travelling during the shielding hour?

@Zem74 I am on the same meds for Crohn’s disease. She doesn’t actually need to be shielding to start with how can you possibly think you know more than her consultant. People are scored certain meds score 2 points and then any other condition scores 1 point. 3 points means you need to shield. So with the exact same meds you could be vulnerable she is extremely vulnerable.

Ahh now I get where you are coming from. They are a bit OTT btw, SIL has Crohns too.

Yes DH is shielding, he has cancer, just finished a course of radiotherapy last week.

I totally understand about you wanting to feel safe with DH staying home. DH can work from home indefinitely, but something needs to be put in place for peace of mind for people shielding that can’t. That in my mind is far more important that a shielding hour. On BBC yesterday it said 27% had lost half their income.

A shielding hour just wouldn’t work. The way I see it is that it is up to individuals to protect themselves due to their level of risk. So we take the dog out between 4am and 7 as that is a safe time here. The earlier we go, the longer he gets a walk. But it’s certainly not up to other people to go without to protect DH.

I think that those people should get some kind of protection perhaps, I'm not sure how it could work but I know there is something whereby if someone has a disability at work, or becomes disabled with workplace needs to accommodate that and give them a suitable role. Or home working as the best option obviously.

(prior to covid I mean)

I'm lucky in a way DH not as much as risk as cancer obviously but also in consultancy so while need to go into the factory is not on an assembly line or something which would be higher risk. He's just keeping it minimal, and also the company is pretty good with everything being 2m, one way systems and visors etc.

Sorry, I didn’t mean everywhere to only be open for an hour for Shielders, I just meant that a designated public space would be appreciated for an hour.

I have got the letter and although I’m only 36 and a woman, I am BAME and have been told by my cardiologist that due to my vascular condition and an autoimmune disease my chances of survival are extremely low. I have survived pneumonia twice but my lungs are quite scarred from that. I don’t think the world should stop for me, I’d just appreciate a safe space for an hour.

@ToothFairyNemesis I haven’t implied I know more than her consultant, thanks. I just know what the advice is for those with IBD and I know what info she gives in the video where she states she has crohns and she is taking azathioprine. Anyone taking this medication was blanket sent the shielding letter, the BSG then published a risk chart stating that azathioprine didn’t need to shield just social distance. No medical professional of mine told me about this, I had to find out for myself, then consult an IBD nurse and GP for clarification.

I can understand that Namechange

On the financial side I wondered if it could help for all people in the group to automatically be granted the high rate of PIP while this continues. It is non means tested and not work related so could still do some work at home

I mean most of people in that group would probably qualify anyway but if not it could be a help- perhaps

Or something similar

On azathioprine I think this is being used as possible treatment for covid

www.bsg.org.uk/covid-19-advice/clarification-for-patients-taking-azathioprine/

I’m a lecturer and have continued teaching and working from home throughout and being paid normally. I know for others who can’t work due to Shielding benefits may help but I suspect a lot of us would just like som fresh air or a chat with another human at a distance.

www.crohnsandcolitis.org.uk/news/advice-for-people-with-crohns-and-colitis-self-isolation-social-distancing

DH is on mtx and humira so seems moderate but did have a letter also

ToothFairyNemesis

This is the first I've heard of a points based system. Can you link it?

Thanks

some fresh air or a chat with another human at a distance

This is allowed now though isn't it

@nether it’s only for certain conditions will find the link for you now.

This is allowed now though isn't it

Yes, but only just - Scotland made its announcement only today

(PS: have seen the points based stuff now. It's a tool for some conditions only (where severity is relevant) which is why I'd not come across it. Apologies for being so insular!

This is allowed now though isn't it

It is, but as I posted earlier, I’ve been verbally abused on several occasions when walking for wearing a mask, spat at twice by teenagers and people don’t generally think 2 metre distance is what works for them so it’s hard to distance when others don’t respect that. I’m not the only person who’s been shouted at for wearing a mask according to our local Facebook page and people are resentful here of the 2m distance and just move as they wish.

2am was suggested as a time for a walk but there have been 2 recent rapes in my local vicinity and don’t have dogs or children as posters have suggested I should take with me. I appreciate this is specific and wouldn’t affect 99.9% of people but I do think a shielding hour in a local park or green space would be helpful for a lot of shielders.

But would it really be sensible for a load of vulnerable people to all be out at the same time?

My mum hasn't used the "granny hour" at the supermarket as she thought it was a stupid idea to have lots of elderly vulnerable people in there at the same time.

I think you're better using your own judgment to go out at a time that suits you and your area. Even now it's not that hard to find relatively quiet places where I am, but then you also have to weigh up the risks of being out on your own in a lonely spot if you are female.

Why on earth are people being abused for wearing masks? Is it because they think you're wearing medical grade and the NHS need them? Or just because they are idiots?