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UK Holidays - people now more welcome?

60 replies

CarlaH · 14/06/2020 08:26

I've noticed a few people starting to talk about booking or wanting a UK holiday and it no longer seems to attract the vitriol it did.

A few weeks ago the mere suggestion of anybody daring to want to visit Cornwall or the Lake District resulted in abuse.

Are the people there coming around to the possibility that they might get visitors from elsewhere coming to stay soon?

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nancypineapple · 14/06/2020 16:36

I don't personally know any other "Londoner" who travelled 5 hours to "shit on a beach" or climb up a damp mountain during lockdown or the couple of weeks before.I think very few of those people pictured in the Lake District or up Snowdon or on the beach in Dorset where from London most probably from another nearer urban area. After all most North Londoners won't even travel to South London and vice versa let alone drive for 5 hours each way on a day trip. Also I only know of one family near us who have a flat at the seaside and they have stayed put in the city the whole time.

CarlaH · 14/06/2020 17:06

ravensoaponarope

I am aware that the Welsh are still on a stronger lockdown than England but I really think just a message saying that people can't come at the moment is fine.

Greying it out so that people can't even see what's on offer when this nightmare is over seems a touch of overkill.

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Musicforsmorks · 14/06/2020 17:31

Oh ffs, lets get it right.

Some retirees and those locals who ALREADY resented losing housing stock to 2nd homers were very vocal.

There are much wider, societal issues stirring the pot.
The virus also made people paranoid and afraid which is understandable.

The rest of us who live in tourist places feel weird without the tourists . It’s dead where I am and I miss the visitors just not the bad traffic
issues.

Afaik, the Lake District authority did a survey and most of the visitors who were lighting fires, illegally camping and leaving trash We’re not those who’d normally visit the lakes.

It’s just lockdown insanity and we need to lay this up and get on with trying to return to normal as best we can.

EveLevine · 14/06/2020 17:33

@CarlaH I don’t think they are thinking too much about the future at the moment! It’s looking highly unlikely they’ll have a tourist season this year.

Anglesey is part of Betsi Cadwaladr Health Board, their figures at the moment are devastating - they have the highest death rate in Wales, along with the highest percentage of elderly people.

I love West and North Wales for holidays, the people are always so friendly. But this year, I totally understand why they may not be as welcoming as normal!

Musicforsmorks · 14/06/2020 17:34

What I’d love to know is how the poor shops in these tiny villages are going to deal with social distancing and queuing when the pavements are less than 2ft wide and if you step out beyond them you’d get flattened under traffic.😬

HeronLanyon · 14/06/2020 17:46

I am in Cornwall and have been for 13 weeks. There is definitely a vociferous anti tourist feeling here. Often by the same people who are renting out holiday lets and camping fields and have been throughout. Local police have been enforcing but its understandable patchy. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the anti tourist feeling continues. Whilst still raking in money from them.
It’s always been the way just stronger this year. I’ve never found Cornwall welcoming. Quite the opposite.

ineedaholidaynow · 14/06/2020 17:48

If you don’t find it welcoming why are you there @HeronLanyon?

HeronLanyon · 14/06/2020 20:41

Live half the year here and have for decades.

GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 14/06/2020 21:42

I think as well if in general there are too many cases in a particular area there will have to be a local lockdown and also cases will just have to be sent elsewhere. Wasn't the plan if hospitals became overwhelmed in the west country for people to go to Bristol?

Anyway I've lost a huge deposit of 50% for a cottage holiday in Devon. Looks like I am going to have to go to the small claims court to get it back.

Will try to drive down to the Alps last minute if I'm allowed. Probably the locals hate tourists there too but at least I won't understand the language!

Port1aCastis · 14/06/2020 22:00

I am Cornish was born and bred here and I am sick to death of being stereotyped as not wanting people here, rubbish, absolute rubbish! I am in tourism if course I want people here! Stereotyping all 550,000 of us as not wanting people here is unfair and upsetting Boris will not let me open yet and I am getting seriously pissed off with him and the whole thing and even more pissed off with people chattering on and on about me and those around me and what we want or don't want when you do not know us and have no idea how we feel about having our livelihoods busted wide open.
I will welcome the day when we can have guests back and hope it will be July 4th as promised as I've taken bookings and I would like to honour them as some of them are returning guests who we see year after year.
We may be Cornish but we are still people and all the hate being thrown at us hurts!

Flossie44 · 14/06/2020 22:06

I’m Cornish and proud!! Proud of Cornwall and always always welcome tourists and am happy to show off where we live. And to share it all.
I think the only thing that gets under my skin is the disrespect for our beaches. The beaches we tend to and keep clean all year round. But this entails additional cleaning in the summer..dirty nappies, empty food containers and used barbecues. It makes us feel disrespected.
Covid scared us..we have one wonderful hospital but it’s small. Very small. It can’t cope with the locals, let alone additional patients.
We were scared. But we aren’t, in general, hostile

tinkywinkyshandbag · 14/06/2020 22:09

I'm in the Cotswolds and we get a lot of visitors, I agree with the earlier poster it was bad when no toilets etc were open, now it's not so bad. But yes we've had masses more littering, people leaving dirty nappies behind or even pooing in a car park behind some shops, which is really pretty gross and selfish. I guess we're resigned to the tourists coming now, now, and the local businesses and holiday let owners need the tourists to survive so they will be welcoming tourists with open arms. I genuinely don't think there will be any hostility so long as the tourists are respectful. But more visitors to the area does mean that it will be harder for me to go out to exercise or walk my dog, because everywhere I've been going during lockdown will be so much busier, and I'm sure it will be harder to shop for groceries etc as the shops will be more crowded and therefore harder to social
distance, so yes I've got mixed feelings to be honest.

ThighThighofthigh · 14/06/2020 22:24

Nancy so true! The terror of crossing the river and encountering North Londoners!

Port1aCastis · 14/06/2020 22:27

Flossie We had human poo on our beach on the bank holiday weekend, someone's little girl trod in it and her Mother had to scrape it off to clean her up, yuk it was dreadful also what is very annoying are the risks people will take on the cliffs and in the sea, my dd is with the RNLI and says she sees the most incredulous things like people going out in a kayak with no lifejacket or the tombstoning or the dogs that fall off cliffs because they're not on a lead.

exiledfromcornwall · 15/06/2020 08:30

At some point I am going to have to go to Cornwall. I have an elderly mother there who I haven't seen for over 3 months. Frankly I am dreading it after seeing some of the comments from the locals. And I speak as a Cornish person, albeit having lived away from there for most of my life.

Laiste · 15/06/2020 12:45

Port1aCastis - my dd is with the RNLI and says she sees the most incredulous things like people going out in a kayak with no lifejacket or the tombstoning or the dogs that fall off cliffs because they're not on a lead.

You're not wrong that that's twatish behavior but to be fair that's all been going on forever. Nothing to do with Clovid.
(grew up in Dorset)

Laiste · 15/06/2020 12:46

As a lad my dad was tombstoning off Durdle Door in the the 50s.

FlamingoAndJohn · 15/06/2020 16:41

@Laiste

As a lad my dad was tombstoning off Durdle Door in the the 50s.
There have been reckless young men since time immemorial.
XingMing · 15/06/2020 17:31

I think locally (SE Cornwall) that the hospitality industry is desperately keen to welcome tourists as soon as it's permitted.

That said, most people are slightly apprehensive that we may receive a tsunami of visitors because the range of destinations is more limited this year. Fewer flights to overseas destinations will be one factor, but if visitors are feeling a bit strapped financially, there will be pressure to choose a UK campsite or caravan park rather than a self-catering cottage.

BPk6 · 15/06/2020 17:37

I was reading the Centerparcs website earlier. They are trying to work out how to manage things going forward.

Talking about being open from 6 July at the earliest and won’t open unless ready.

Takeaways being the norm with reduced capacity and limited menu for those eating in the restaurants and queuing for the shops.

They are also not sure if activities will happen at all and if they do, they may be limited.

They don’t mention swimming pools at all.

Doesn’t sound like much of a break for the price!

APurpleSquirrel · 15/06/2020 17:52

Of course if people are allowed to travel for holidays then you will be welcomed in the SW.
But tourists are going to have to realise it won't be the same - just as it is at home. We've already heard today that one of our favourite local attractions won't be reopening at all, & others won't be opening till July & when they do it'll be reduced capacity/social distancing/take away food/ etc which will make queues worse especially if more people come as overseas holidays aren't happening.

Musicforsmorks · 15/06/2020 17:57

Anyone got thoughts on this as I can’t seem to find anyone discussing it online.

I’m in touristy tiny village, 2 small shops for groceries. Millions visit every yr and the streets are cramped and tiny.

How, if we begin hospitality can people even queue for local shopping?
I have no idea how councils, businesses will pull it off, but if they do, hats off to them!

It’s quite sad without the visitors. They’re usually happy and pleasant and just love the place.

But how can that many people socially distance in a tiny space?

Musicforsmorks · 15/06/2020 18:00

......and these shops, mostly gift shops, rely heavily upon tourists so if no tourists come, the shops are screwed.

So how do we resume tourism whilst not needing 20ft of new pavement?

pandafunfactory · 15/06/2020 19:54

Wait for a change in guidance, two metres is about to bite the dust.

CarlaH · 16/06/2020 08:45

EveLevine

What is going on in Anglesey I wonder. After your comment I had a look and see that they have had nine new cases in one day.

Wales has a harsher lockdown that England so how are these cases still increasing.

My local area (south east england) had only had one new case yesterday.

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