My DF lives alone.. Can he form a bubble with us?

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Just that really. My father lives alone though my dependant sibling, school age occasionally stays at his.
He's local, can we visit him in a bubble now?

Is he over 70 or in at an risk group? If no, then yes you can form a bubble.

If he is old or at risk then he isnt any safer having contact today than he was yesterday.

Where does it mention over 70s? I think it's only shielded people that can't form a bubble.

I'd say yes, it did include single parents

Yes, unless he is shielding

Yes unless hes sheilding

Its people living alone and single parents.

Yes, within the rules you could, but the virus doesn't care what the rules are, so you need to think about whether it's wise to or not, if no one in your house has been out in weeks then you're probably ok, but if you're going out to work/shopping do you want to take the risk of giving it to him if you're unknowingly asymptomatic or pre symptomatic?

If he's over 70 but not not had a shielding letter he'll be fine. If shielding he would come under the "Clinically extremely vulnerable category". If just over 70 it's the "clinically vulnerable category"

Clinically vulnerable’describes the wider group of people who have been identified as being more at risk from the new coronavirus but not so severely that they need to shield themselves.

The government doesn’t actually recommend that clinically vulnerable people follow any rules that differ from the universal social distancing guidance.

But these people are being told to follow thatguidancecarefully, and to take particular care to minimise contact with others outside of their household.

As discussed above, this group includes anyone aged 70 or older regardless of their medical conditions.

It also includes anyone who is under 70 but has health conditions including chronic mild to moderate respiratory disease, chronic heart, kidney or liver disease, chronic neurological conditions, diabetes or a weakened immune system because of conditions such as HIV and AIDS or medicines like steroid tablets.

This group alsoincludes pregnant womenand anyone classed as seriously overweight, with a body mass index of 40 or above.

fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-shielding-social-distancing/

It's more important for over 70s to keep their distance than those under 70.

Forming a bubble means you will be longer be keeping to social distancing, you wont be wearing a mask around him or washing your hands before touching anything etc. It puts him more at risk.

It's your choice if you want to take that risk of course, but he still isnt any safer because of this new allowance than he was when we were told over 70s are at risk.

Isn't the crux in this particular case that he has an occasional overnight dependent staying which already makes a bubble. That dependent is mixing away from this particular set-up so DF already has exposure via them. If DF was completely alone then yes you would make a bubble but in this instance the overnights with another family member means he's no longer classed as on his own.

A parent (and only applicable if they are on their own) of 2 adult DC's can only go into a bubble with one of the two DC's and not both even if it's on different days. That will be the case until the rules change.

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Single parents who drop off and pick up their kids from the other parent are still alone. Waving at their ex partner doesn't count as having a bubble. They are still alone with no one but a child.

Split up parents were allowed to ferry their kids between them, but now those single parents who only live with their children can have contact with one other household. Since people were already allowed to share their kids, I'm going to assume that this is an additional allowance so lonely adults can have contact with another adult.

Thank you.
He's only 60. Fit and healthy. Hes furlough and only does grocery.
DH on furlough and I do grocery. And very careful so hopefully the risk is small

Your DF cannot form a bubble with you as your sibling also stays with him so he does not live alone.

Where does your dependant sibling normally live?

He doesnt have to live alone. He is a single parent to an under 18 year old. Single parents count in the "living alone" category.

That’s not correct. The dependent sibling is school aged and therefore presumably under 18. As a single parent of an under 18 year old he can bubble with another family unit.

As others have said, as your father is the only adult in the household, he is allowed to form a support bubble. If he forms his support bubble with you, your household is not allowed to form a support bubble with anyone else.

He's already formed his bubble with your sibling who stays, so he can't form a second bubble with you too. They said you can't change the 'bubble people'.

Oh I missed school aged. Perhaps the sibling doesn't count as a bubble person

I missed the school age bit too