Summer school catch up

[LockdownLou]

Just watched the briefing.

So how would this work then? Obviously we will have to wait for Gavins proposals, just speculating in the meantime.....

Well I am not working over summer, unpaid or otherwise. I have my own child who needs time away from the tv and taken for days out, I need a break, the kids i teach need a break. If they want to magic up some amazing catch up session without speaking to any school or teacher, fine, but I have been providing lessons and marking and support to all of my students who have bothered working over the past 10 weeks. I will go in and september and continue to do my best. But I refuse to stick my child in front of a tv for the whole summer so I can continue teaching.

@SqidgeBum I have said exactly the same on another thread.

I teach in a state school and been teaching live to timetable for the start of lockdown. This period would currently be my PPA, next period when I would have had Yr 11 I am actually having an additional session with Yr 12 in preparation for their coursework planning over the summer.

I actually want to be in school now. I would rather risk my physical health with catching them virus than my mental health. I am teaching my own children in allotted spots before my school hours and after. They are sitting on devices all day so I can teach. I actually considered throwing myself down the stairs to break a bone last night so I could be signed off. Teachers are at breaking point.

I think it depends what the purpose is. To help with childcare or to catch up. ( both equally valuable)
If it’s to catch up I think there would be plenty of better ways to do. Schools know the interventions that have the most impact, there is plenty of research and evidence that looks into this. The money would be better spent on adults that can deliver these effectively when schools are back ( hopefully in September) Then children are working with adults they know alongside class teacher to ensure consistency and effective assessment for learning

I actually think that in August there needs to be some sort of offer for children’s mental
Health, so that they go back in September having processed everything and ready to work. Definitely not classes, but some sort of fun, therapeutic offering (can’t imagine what my 11 year old would accept but then I’m not a teacher!). Even just a week of getting classes back together for team type projects and chat and fun. Teachers obvs do work over the summer so perhaps this could be part of this time .

Teachers obvs do work over the summer so perhaps this could be part of this time

1. My teacher family member won't have anywhere to live as moving schools.
2. Hopefully she will be on a previously arranged trip in August for a well earned break. Already booked.
3. If anyone owes any time, it is the other way around. Hours of unpaid labour for the past two years. ££££ of her own money spent on equipment and supplies which the government doesn't supply - down to a stapler & photocopying.

Maybe they should try asking nicely before they make wild announcements.

Teachers obvs do work over the summer so perhaps this could be part of this time .

Any work we do in the summer holidays is usually preparing for the new year. The amount depends on how different your timetable in sep is to previous years, i.e. next year I have y7 for the first time since we changed the ks3 curriculum so I'll have to prepare for that.

We don't get paid for that, it's part of the 'do as many hours as necessary to fulfil your duties part of the contract'. If we do the same as Scotland and it's blended learning in Sep then there will be masses to do as we'll have to prepare for that. If we're back as normal in Sep they'll still be a lot to prepare as we'll have to adapt what we normally do to account for the fact that kids will have vastly different starting points to normal. All of this can be done from the comfort of my home and means I'll still see my own family. I accept it as part of the job in normal years and if there's more to do this year I'll do it. I'll even try to do it without complaining.

If we're in supervising kids, even if it's not teaching, that's an entirely different proposition to the normal work that teachers do over the summer.

What you're talking about is summer camp. Either parents pay for it or the government does. Either way it shouldn't be teachers doing it.

Ah ok then! I thought teachers were in and out a lot but clearly not! Summer camp is not what I’m thinking of at all. Presumably first week or so of term will be this work then!

I would love my children out of the house for 12 hrs .

Completely agree with homemadeandfromscratch

My dd has been working at home every day since March. Some days she's had barely any work and others quite a lot. I'm hoping by summer holidays we are able to get out and do a little more and she may be able to socialise with some friends. She is not going to be stuck in a classroom from July until Christmas. Especially when she sees her yr11 sibling spending those 6 weeks at home chilling out.

Personally I think we need the next few months to figure out the next steps and see where we are and how it's going to work in September.

Yes I agree mine will be downing tools july 22. Just saw on another thread that the govt had confirmed schools closed over summer so if they’re just talking about more online provision (oak academy etc). I doubt anyone will use it !

Any provision will need to prioritise the most vulnerable children who haven’t had as much access to online learning. If we could do this and if we could get them in I would definitely be prepared to give some of my (paid) time. I just can’t see it happening though.

Please no more online stuff, my children are getting less and less motivated to do itand frankly bored. What they need is socialization to be with other kids. If it's some sort of programme of socially distanced active summer camp, where they learn teamwork and life skills and in the process get them motivated and revved up for school that would be fantastic.
Anything else will be grim - I think I'm probably dreaming though and being unrealistic.

@Makinglists as a teacher I agree. Online lessons in summer wont be beneficial enough, not to mention the issue myself and my colleagues are having is that those who are behind are those who havrnt done a tap of online work since we went into lockdown. We are spending 40-50% of our time emailing parents and students basically begging them to do some work. The kids who need catch up arent the ones who will do online lessons, but they also arent likely to come to school during the summer. What you describe is a summer camp which is lovely but not really a teachers job.

As previous posters have mentioned, teachers do work over summer but its planning for next year. We have very very little plan for next year yet. We will need a plan for partial lockdown and a plan to open for every year. We have SO much work to do for next year. My August will mostly be taken up by figuring out how to survive next term.

I hope this scheme is available to all. Families where 2 parents work full time have been really impacted by this situation. My DD has been in keyworker school (no educatikn at all) as I work for ghe NHS full time (more than full time at the moment). DH works really long hours. There is NO time to do homeschooling. We are lucky if we manage 3 or 4 hours a week. It’s a nightmare and I feel so guilty for DD. She is 6 so needs 121 help and was a bit behind where she should be educationally before this fiasco started.

My SIL is a stay at home mum. Her kids get 6 hours home schooling everyday and her DH can wfh without any impact. I’m so jealous of her life right now.

I wake up 3am regularly worrying about how I am failing my daughter 😢

And any catch up summer schools where I still need to teach DD just won’t work - I can’t magically have time off over the summer

namechanger the annual leave thing depends on the company. Dhs company will be giving tbe furloghed their annual leave back when rhey returne to work.

I suspect this will NOT be anymore online learning. This certainly wouldn’t be classed as any different or better than what children have already experienced. This will be some form of schooling either on school premises or elsewhere.

Ah ok then! I thought teachers were in and out a lot but clearly not! Summer camp is not what I’m thinking of at all

Yes, of course we are doing prep work when the children aren’t in over the holidays, but we won’t be able to do that if the children ARE in! We can’t do both.

The briefing confirmed that schools will not be opening in the summer holidays, even for keyworkers children.

Just read this on the BBC:

The PM's spokesman said the plans would involve all pupils, not just those from poor backgrounds who are expected to fare worse during closures.

All pupils?! Have they checked parents are up for this? My kids have been doing normal schoolwork the entire time with variations for remote teaching and will absolutely not be participating in any summer work.

@tootyfruitypickle

Yes I agree mine will be downing tools july 22. Just saw on another thread that the govt had confirmed schools closed over summer so if they’re just talking about more online provision (oak academy etc). I doubt anyone will use it !

I think it will something like this continued throughout summer, with the vulnerable/most disadvantaged hooked up to a number of sessions with private tutoring and or privately run intervention programs. I very much doubt there will be anything resembling normal teaching by normal staff. I think they'll try to cook up some kind of childcare but no idea how.

Do they not talk to each other in the cabinet? Boris's announcement seemed totally at odds with what Gavin Williamson had said before and since and today Matt Hancock said today he was 'pleased' to hear about social bubbles - did he not know? Was he not consulted?!

@Saladmakesmesad considering the need for social distancing, and that schools dont have enough staff to bring kids back to school now, they would need all current teachers, retired teachers, and those who have left the profession (and have other jobs now) to partake in this in order to make it available to all students. I am now pretty convinced this is bu**it from the government, the same as their 'plans' to open primary schools to all, without actually speaking to those who work in primary schools.

This is going to be another situation of BJ standing there during a briefing and stating 'we have a plan!' and the teachers, who only just heard about the plan, say 'well, thats not logistically possible' and the response from parents (especially those on MN) is 'teachers are lazy and dont want to work!'. We will be the bad guys, again.

It’s basically impossible isn’t it? But because the government have said it will happen, they can blame teachers / schools / unions when it doesn’t

I think it’s going to be more online stuff for sure. But we won’t be joining in.