WTAF schools...

[SoberCurious]

My friend who works for the DfE says they are planning for kids to go back to school in December 😭😭😭

[Drivingdownthe101]

@Blackbear19

How many SAHP are there who don't have preschool children / elderly parents who need looking after / or some other responsibilities animals, charity work etc.

I don't know of any SAHP who don't have other responsibilities.

But yes some serious looks need to be made a education and the class sizes. And teacher retention rates.

I have a pre school child and charity commitments, but would happily organise things so that I could help out in schools.

[QuarantineQueen]

Teachers have no clue. SLTs have no clue. I don't think the DfE has a clue. Secondary schools are due to take some pupils from Monday. Plans were all in place... then the government changed the guidance at the last minute - on Monday. With 7 days warning. The idea that they have any clue what they are going to tell us to do before the end of August is laughable.

[Enderthedragon]

It literally feels like only yesterday that people were shouting about how ridiculous it is that schools are opening, that it's totally unsafe, that it's 'madness'. And yet now people are moaning that the schools aren't opening?

[RaspberryIsMyJam]

[quote Sedlescombe]You said it was just testing and this isn't true at all. Don't post fake news as lots of people will believe it

I said it wouldn't be fully operational and it wont. What I said was factually correct. Are you being encouraged to lie about the scheme?

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/04/nhs-track-and-trace-system-not-expected-to-be-operating-fully-until-september-coronavirus[/quote]
Ahh yes, the Guardian...

You said 'What is currently happening is testing'

I disputed that. I'm not being encouraged to lie. I am actually working on it, not reading a newspaper article about it.

[TheCountessofFitzdotterel]

@ravenmum

It's also due to the summer holidays, though, isn't it? Even if the UK opened school in 2 weeks' time, who wants to send their children back for 2 weeks? So a relatively short delay of (say) 1 month compared to other countries would mean that children didn't start until September.

I would! Like a shot!
The social and emotional benefits would be greatest for my 10yo but for all my kids it would make transition back in September easier. My 13yo with SEN has really struggled and is really worried about whether he has lost the ability to learn. It would help reassure him.
Honestly, even just a few days (like my 15 yo is getting) would have been a big boost.

[cologne4711]

*The UK has reached 602 deaths per million"
NZ has had 4 deaths per million
Of course the situation is not the same

In this context the past death rate is not relevant. What is relevant is the future infection rate. If we are in the same position as New Zealand is now (or indeed the state of Saxony in Germany) by the end of August there would be no reason not to reopen schools normally.

[ravenmum]

The holidays start at different times in different regions here in Germany, so some of the schools were due to open for just 2 weeks. Some parents there made a big fuss about it not being worth it, when the whole family might then be in quarantine for another two weeks, just for a fortnight of school.

[cologne4711]

who wants to send their children back for 2 weeks

if my son's college opened for two weeks he would be back like a shot. However, they think their current online delivery method is working. For some subjects it is.

[Kljnmw3459]

Nope. Government will make a u-turn and allow schools to open fully for the last 4 weeks before summer. I've heard it just now from myself!

[Delatron]

This is true. We need to look at the infection rate in the community not how many deaths we had months ago. Yes it had been a missive cock up but we can’t expect to
be in this situation in 3 months?

The death rate is falling as are infections in the community. Other countries are easing lockdown with no second spike.

[ReceptionTA]

I know phonics back to front so I could at least do reading, some cleaning even? Helping at lunch time. This whole thing is a mess.

[mamapants]

Wakes and Scotland have explicitly said they are planning for home learning and some school to continue into next term.
I'm thinking of writing to my MP and Kirsty Williams about it.

In Wales track and trace is I think being piloted in a couple of counties.

[LolaSmiles]

It's all speculation.

Schools will be throwing around potential plans internally because they can't trust the government to give well-considered plans with appropriate time to implement them.

I do love how many people on Mumsnet know someone who knows someone who has all this insider information that gets dropped on Mumsnet, or there's more testing the waters to judge public opinion.

[FlamingoAndJohn]

@SoberCurious

Just sharing what I have been told. By three different people now. One from DfE, another is a teacher & one high up in a London council. 🤷‍♀️

And before the recent reopening there were daily threads where people swore blind that someone they meet when walking their dog told them schools weren’t opening again before September.

The teacher won’t know, teachers literally found of at the same time as the rest of the country.

[ravenmum]

The past (and ongoing) death rate is relevant to whether or not people are scared to go near one another, and for how long.

[ReceptionTA]

Those are not my words o was quoting a PP.

I was so astounded I posted too soon

[cologne4711]

If people are too scared to send their kids back they can deregister and homeschool them.

But the rest of us should be able to get our kids back to bricks and mortar schools.

[pennylane83]

The countries that have managed to get the most children back into school are the ones that started to deal with Corona at a very early stage, so had fewer cases, less frightened parents and teachers and are thus able to get children back in faster. I'm afraid that the UK would have to go back in time and deal with Corona earlier if it wanted to be in the same position as the countries where lots of children are going back

Or maybe people just need to stop reading the anxiety driven hype the media peddles out and instead look to those countries where things have started to get back to normal, children have returned to schools, business back up and running, social distancing measures reduced yet the world hasn't imploded or cases taken off again. The daily corona briefings really have to stop also because all they are doing is fuelling peoples anxiety because eveyone reads into the stats whatever confirms their own theory.

[Homemadeandfromscratch]

Schools here are planning for ALL primary schools children to be back by early July. HTH

[Char2015]

@StrawberryBlondeStar

Local state primary has advised reception starters will mostly likely be back to 3 intakes (Sept, Jan and Easter). Children starting in term they are 5.

If this is the case here then that means my son would not start school until Easter 2021. I'm prepared just in case.

[Sedlescombe]

RaspberryIsMyJam Until its fully working........its not fully working. Call it what you like but if its not fully working its still being rolled out. What I said was correct

As for the snide comment towards the Guardian (and it was also in the Metro), how revealing. They were given the video of the call, were you on it? Either you have lied to try and protect the service by smearing me with the fake news comment or you aren't very well informed about your employers

[Homemadeandfromscratch]

And yet now people are moaning that the schools aren't opening?
to be fair, you usually find threads on Sundays that weekends with the kids are too long and don't get started on school half terms or the summer break.
these parents had to pop up eventually

[CoronaIsComing]

I work directly for our Council in education and we don’t have any more information than anyone else!

[Drivingdownthe101]

@ravenmum

The past (and ongoing) death rate is relevant to whether or not people are scared to go near one another, and for how long.

Well of the 140 children eligible to go back to our school (R, 1 and 6), 137 have returned. Plus all teachers. So the fear obviously isn’t too strong here!

[MigGril]

We have no idea, Year 10's go back next week. There is a review on the 29th June we'll see what happens then.

So far SLT are speculating that we'll have part time teaching in September. That's what there current thinking is, so they are trying to gear up more active online learning.