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An education one to get cross about..

42 replies

pfrench · 04/06/2020 17:14

.. the government has announced that it is NOT going to extend the Free School Meals vouchers system over the summer holidays.

So, after 3 months, at the point where low income families might really be struggling, the government is going to take away a safety net. For all their talk of protecting vulnerable children, at crunch point, they are going to make their lives worse.

Write to your MP.

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LockdownLou · 04/06/2020 17:18

They don’t usually get free school meals over the summer hols though right?

pfrench · 04/06/2020 17:22

They wouldn't normally get them over half term or Easter holidays, but they did this year.

They're not usually in a pandemic situation that might have made life significantly more difficult either.

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biglittlemedium · 04/06/2020 17:23

So what do those families usually do in the school holidays?

attackedbycritters · 04/06/2020 17:24

What do families normally do?

Work?

Duckfinger · 04/06/2020 17:27

Those families usually go hungry.

It is not surprising though, that free meal vouchers won't be available.
I also don't think keyworker provision will be free over summer holidays. I think keyworker children will be given priority for spaces at other childcare providers.

garfieldisacat · 04/06/2020 17:29

There won't be vouchers or keyworker provision over Summer.

JimmyGrimble · 04/06/2020 17:32

If we were serious about protecting vulnerable children we would be providing vouchers year round. The fact that in 2020 there are children going hungry is a national disgrace. The responses you have had OP just goes to underline the fact that those bleating about the vulnerable are just using them to bolster their argument about getting their children back to school at any price. Illuminating isn’t it?

pfrench · 04/06/2020 17:32

Should be an opportunity to change things and make sure vulnerable kids are fed. This is a fundamental at the very bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

Come on, everyone on here desperately worried about gaps in education and vulnerable kids not being in school, and so on. The government has shown that when they want to, they can do this stuff. They should do it all the time.

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snowballer · 04/06/2020 17:37

They absolutely should be doing this. While the state is funding the wages of something like 8 million people, many of whom work for businesses that would NOT otherwise go under, which was the point of the furlough scheme, we 100% should be funding these children. It beggars belief that the likes of Victoria Beckham was able to furlough her staff on the state's purse (even if she did retract only because of the negative press) and we have children going hungry over the long holiday. It makes me so furious

purplechairandcat · 04/06/2020 17:43

Those families usually rely on free holiday clubs that provide free food for children, often referred to through schools, social work or support services. Those holiday clubs won't be happening this year.

JudithGrimes · 04/06/2020 17:49

@garfieldisacat

There won't be vouchers or keyworker provision over Summer.
I think it depends on the education authority. Our school is planning to remain open over the summer for key workers and vulnerable children. We are considering using some of the pupil premium we receive to continue to fund free school meals for those who are usually eligible.
1forsorrow · 04/06/2020 17:49

Should benefits, UC? be high enough rather than vouchers? Vouchers seem patronising to me, as if they are saying we can't give you money as you are obviously irresponsible but we will give you some vouchers so we know what you are spending it on? Failing that vouchers are better than kids going hungry.

Useruseruserusee · 04/06/2020 17:55

At our school we are lucky enough to have a funded parent support worker from a charity. The charity provides hampers every year for our FSM kids.

It should be the government’s responsibility to provide. I will absolutely be writing to my MP.

Somewhereinthesky · 04/06/2020 17:56

I do agree. It's not normal circumstances, so you can't compare it to normal summer holidays. It's a very heartless things to do as government.

Sirzy · 04/06/2020 17:57

Locally we have two organisations which offer breakfast and lunch clubs over school holidays so children can be fed for free. Things like that won’t be able to run this year as things stand so there needs to be something else in place.

As they have shown the voucher scheme can work it would be nice if it was extended to every school holiday to ensure no children need to go hungry

pfrench · 04/06/2020 19:21

Interesting that a thread specifically about vulnerable children, usually cited as the reason for all the schools to be back immediately, has sunk like a stone. The BMJ today (should be added that any stoppage to current non-school related family support and so on, is in addition to 10 years of underfunding):

They must not be left behind in its aftermath

When the Titanic sank there was a linear relation between the social class of passengers and their risk of drowning.1 During the bubonic plague, the upper classes fled Italian cities for safer country residences, heeding the public health advice, “cito, longe, tarde” (flee early, flee far, return late)2; the less wealthy were left behind and died disproportionately as a result. A similar pattern was seen in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina.3 History tells us that, during times of crisis, vulnerable groups lose out most. The covid-19 pandemic is no different. Emerging data show the pandemic tracking along social fault lines.4 And although children are not the face of this pandemic, they are deeply affected. The UN warns of “unprecedented risks to the rights and safety and development of the world’s children.”5

During childhood, we are especially vulnerable to the main determinants of health: living conditions, family income, employment, education, access to health services. The pandemic can be conceived as an additional systemic shock to these determinants. In the shorter term, with the focus squarely on adults with covid-19, child health and social care services are being sidelined. These include acute services for life threatening illnesses, outpatient services for chronic conditions, child protection services guarding against abuse and neglect, and preventive services that support early years development, routine checks, and immunisations. Global modelling predicts a stark increase in child mortality as a result of diversion of care.6 As soon and as seamlessly as possible, we must restore these services to full, and greater, capacity.5

Within family homes, the unintended consequences of the lockdown will affect poor children the most. Greater “toxic stress” for many families will increase the risk of neglect and domestic violence.7 Exposure to these adversities can have lifelong health impacts. Many children are going hungry as foodbanks scramble to reconfigure services to meet the rising tide of food insecurity.8 Lockdown in poor quality and overcrowded housing, with inequitable access to safe green space, will disrupt children’s lives, some more than others.9

Social distancing measures and school closures are interrupting educational trajectories. Teachers must be commended for developing online resources, under huge pressure and in difficult circumstances, but for some children the lack of internet, electronic devices, and quiet space at home will further exacerbate inequalities in educational outcomes. Despite plans for the phased reopening of schools, an increasing dependence on supplementary online learning seems assured.

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JimmyGrimble · 04/06/2020 19:39

Do you think maybe that the massed ranks of teacher blamers on here actually don’t give a flying one about poor and vulnerable children unless it suits their narrative?

manicinsomniac · 04/06/2020 19:41

That is bad.

Hopefully there will be other provision (not that there should need to be, govt should step up.) The church I go to is in a very deprived area and normally offers free lunches through summer holidays. We will still do it but from the car park and children will collect and takeaway a bagged lunch rather than be served a sit down one.

I think there will be a lot of compromises like that being made by summer organisations.

Beawillalwaysbetopdog · 04/06/2020 19:44

Good thread pfrench. You're right, I will absolutely right to my MP, will be twice in a fortnight and the second time ever.

Unfortunately, he's still probably groaning under the weight of DC related correspondence.

The food banks normally have a massive increase in use over the summer, but our local one is struggling with all the new users so I don't think it would cope with a new influx over the summer.

Beawillalwaysbetopdog · 04/06/2020 19:46

@manicinsomniac

That is bad.

Hopefully there will be other provision (not that there should need to be, govt should step up.) The church I go to is in a very deprived area and normally offers free lunches through summer holidays. We will still do it but from the car park and children will collect and takeaway a bagged lunch rather than be served a sit down one.

I think there will be a lot of compromises like that being made by summer organisations.

Unfortunately our local one that does this has a lot of volunteers in the wider vulnerabler group as they're mostly retired people. They might be short of volunteers this summer.
june2007 · 04/06/2020 19:48

I worked on a joint council/church initiative providing lunches in the hols. Take up was not always that great.

Drivingdownthe101 · 04/06/2020 19:49

I agree OP. Our village used to run a holiday lunch club for struggling families but they had to fold it over Easter due to lack of funding.
I will write to my MP. He’s generally known to be a heartless twat though so don’t hold out much hope.

MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 04/06/2020 20:25

This is sad. My local council does an amazing play scheme over the summer which includes a free hot lunch. This summer of course it'll be cancelled and so many will go hungry 😢

snowballer · 04/06/2020 20:25

Great post pfrench

EachDubh · 04/06/2020 20:33

The funding for free achool meals is coming directly from some schools, rather than authorities. In our school essential workwra children are goven free achool meals and full wrap around care, their parents are working and earning, perhaps normal dinner charges could apply and the money saved could provide summer meals for those who need them. We know that some families won't provide meals for their kida, we know some will but will starve themselves to do this and we know some can't no matter how hard they try. We can and should be making a difference here. Heck comandeer an icecream van and deliver lunches, do it from a car park, but as a society we can make sure all our kids eat, we can dobit with social distancing measures and then we can continue after covid to ensure it continues. We need to make changes in society at ground level, we need to stop sayingbwe care only to get our own way, we actually meed to care!

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