How not to flip my lid at non social distancers?

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I'm not virus phobic or compromised in any way health wise, I am handwashing, distancing, that's about it.
I am sick however of being in supermarkets and having people ignore the markings to come into 'my' space to get something from a shelf.
Should I just suck it up? I don't want to be that person who gets arsey, but if I am respectful of other people's space I expect the same courtesy. I'm likely to batter the next person over the head with a part baked baguette should they cross the line.

Would it help to remember that, unless they cough or sneeze on you, you have to be close to someone for a good length of time (15 minutes is the guidance) before you're really at risk of catching the virus from them? So I totally get that it's annoying and disrespectful for people to get in your space, believe me I feel the same, I just find it helps me conserve my energy if I think like this instead of wasting it on those who wouldn't listen to me anyway x

How long are you spending in one spot? If you need to linger, just be aware of others around you who are trying to shop as quickly as they can, so they don't hold up the queue.

As said, we now know that just being in each others space, isn't a transmission risk.

Would it help to remember that, unless they cough or sneeze on you, you have to be close to someone for a good length of time (15 minutes is the guidance) before you're really at risk of catching the virus from them?
Do you have a reputable link for that @firebrand123 because that’s very reassuring if that’s true.

You could sigh heavily?

Cough loudly and repeatedly in their direction while feeling your forehead with the back of your hand as if checking your temperature?

@ToothFairyNemesis Not to hand, but it’s what all the government guidance says about what social distancing actually means. I also read a really good academic article that talked about how you need a certain level of exposure to actually catch the virus, which means proximity and length of time. A friend shared it but it was a while ago now. If I find anything I’ll come back with the link!

It's not an issue of transmission, my dh has been working throughout lockdown with the public, so we could be picking up anything?
It's more the fact that people are ignoring the 'rules' and I'm not.
And no I'm not lingering either
I'm a very considerate shopper, intolerant perhaps
I think I'll go with MrsWolf's suggestion

Start coughing they'll soon back off

Just remember you cannot control others. If someone gets in to my space I move. Then I move back to get what I need. Frustrating as it is its not worth getting worked up about.

Stay at home?

www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

A useful analysis that details why passing someone in a supermarket is the least likely way of transmitting the disease.

Whilst there has been confirmed transmission in closed environments these have been with very sustained exposure in the same room as people yelling or singing (indoor sports event and a choir).

I wouldn't care if you did give it to me, OP

@balloonsintrees That's the article I meant!

I also found this in which the author of that study references 15 minutes @ToothFairyNemesis
www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242846836.html

I agree OP. It's not that I'm particularly scared of getting it. I'm a frontline key worker and have been working throughout lockdown.

It's the attitude of people that gets me. Not bothering to social distance or using the one way systems in the supermarkets. They must think "sod it, as long as everyone else follows the rules I dont have to." Taking no personal responsibility at all.

If it's not an issue of transmission then maybe you just need to prioritise your mental health and try and tolerate it. some people need to shop in a hurry and a few seconds getting closer than 2m, really isn't the end of the world. Lots of people do understand the nuanced science beneath the very black and white messaging coming from governement.

@ifellintoarabbithole That's it exactly.

[[https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-test-trace-isolate-support/pages/3/ try this OP.

You asked for a link from another poster:
Covid-19 link here from Public Health Matters - basically says what the other poster said.... a walk past .... OP need not 'flip her lid' as she suggests

publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2020/03/04/coronavirus-covid-19-what-is-social-distancing/

"Coronaviruses can be spread when people with the virus have close, sustained contact with people who are not infected. This typically means spending more than 15 minutes within two metres of an infected person, such as talking to someone for instance."

Are you faffing in one spot or moving quickly?

If it helps a bit more
Friend's BIL had it - tested postive - lived in the same household as 3 children and wife. He worked in a hospital. All tested and only he had it. The others tested negative and then socially distanced from him in the same home. They more than walked past him before he became ill. Now not suggesting that by any means but a simple walk past someone in a supermarket unless they cough and splutter all over you and they have it....
Bearing in mind someone has to actually have it and also spend time with you. It might explain a bit why not many people have had it, even before lockdown when cases were high - the vast majority of infected were hospital and care homes.

Glad to help @firebrand123 !

I've stood there waiting. And waiting. I've been told by members of staff to just pass people. So now I do. I wouldn't reach near someone but goodness people do stand smack in the middle of the aisle!
Also notice that people are beginning to ignore the one way system and the worse offenders are the staff pickers!

I find it's teenagers/early 20s who just saunter/cycle slowly along the pavement RIGHT next to me, music playing loudly, so fucking stupid they cannot fathom what ,"social distancing" entails. Or the young lads all playing football together, kicking the fucking ball near other people.

I don't faff, and for the umpteenth time, I'm not worried about transmission.
I also pass people and have no problem with being passed.
I do object to someone in my zone umming and ahhing over what to buy or reaching across when they should just stay clear and wait a few seconds.