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Schools in Wales to reopen for all year groups 29thJune.

65 replies

LittleRen · 03/06/2020 12:34

By 29th June all year groups will be back in school but only a third in at any one time. Term extended to 27th July.

Sounds good... I wonder if England will follow.

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Groundhogdayzz · 03/06/2020 12:36

Sounds a great idea to get all children at least a few weeks of social interaction/education also a chance to check up on the most vulnerable or at risk before they break for the long summer holidays.

enjoyingscience · 03/06/2020 12:36

It’s physically impossible with the small groups. There isn’t the space or staff. It’s such a cruel thing to get parents hopes up and leave it at the schools door to explain why they can’t take more children.

Littlebelina · 03/06/2020 12:37

Not in wales but thank goodness that kids will at least get sometime back. Kids need other kids and education

cantkeepawayforever · 03/06/2020 12:42

Enjoying - why is it impossible?

Class of 30, 3 groups of 10, one in each week, same teacher each week. If teacher is shielding, TA may have to take the group instead.

The only way it WON'T work is if the Welsh government also insist on social distancing within each 'bubble' of 10. The English guidance is too confusing about this one, as it doesn't specify that there must be 2m but nor does it explicitly rule it out, so some schools have gone for groups of 15, and some have restricted them to 6 or 8 because they are using a 2m rule as well as a bubble approach.

palacegirl77 · 03/06/2020 12:46

How will they have the staff? 3 groups per class instead of 1? Youd need three times the teaching staff. Not going to happen.

Wtfdoipick · 03/06/2020 12:48

of course you don't need 3 times the staff if the children are only in for a third of the time. Can I move to Wales now please my daughter desperatly needs to be around other children.

BrieAndChilli · 03/06/2020 12:51

I wonder how the groups are going to work. Will it be a whole day for a group then they don’t go in for 2 days or will each group go for a 1/3 of a day? Either way it’s shit for work whatever.

BrieAndChilli · 03/06/2020 12:51

Epecially as after school care won’t be operating

palacegirl77 · 03/06/2020 12:57

So if you dont need three times the staff, you are suggesting that all teachers have 3 different groups and rotate them? So that teacher is coming into contact with 30 different children a week? Unions never allow that. Plus teachers cant be in full time if still providing schooling to those kids not attending (for health reasons for example).

cantkeepawayforever · 03/06/2020 13:40

I would suggest the simplest would be 3 groups for a week each, or maybe 4 days to allow a long weekend for cleaning and for the teacher to have non contact time.

Teacher (or TA) has each group, but with a gap between them of 2-3 days.

Any more rapid rota does have a risk of cross-contamination, but good cleaning and a weekend between groups would make the risk manageable.

It is 1 teacher staying in the same room as 3 groups come in 1 after another, or moving into 3 rooms one after another (as would happen in a secondary) that would be more worrying. 3 'bubbles' with full; cleaning and break days in between would be much less hazardous.

Delatron · 03/06/2020 13:46

Positive news and it sounds like a good way to do it.

Chrisinthemorning · 03/06/2020 14:43

Really hoping England make the same announcement.
Lots of schools won’t do it but ours would and it would be brilliant for them to have a couple of weeks back at school before summer.

Butwhhhyyyyyyy · 03/06/2020 14:48

Is good but what about children who are shielding like my dc, do I risk sending him in or not, I'm thinking the latter so far.

ToothFairyNemesis · 03/06/2020 14:52

The guidance is clear schools will not accept children who are shielding. Also from a safeguarding point of view you can ignore medical advice relating to yourself but not on behalf of your child.

Butwhhhyyyyyyy · 03/06/2020 15:16

Thank you @toothfairy I hadn't seen that, makes me feel relieved, although DC wants to go back to schoolmp to see friends.

palacegirl77 · 03/06/2020 15:21

Theres no chance!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-52895640

annie987 · 03/06/2020 15:24

It’s interesting that they have extended term time.
I’m a teacher and have paid for a 2 week uk holiday which starts the day after we should break up. It’s looking likely campsites will be open and we’ve paid in full. I can’t afford to lose the money but won’t be refunded if they are open for business.

ToothFairyNemesis · 03/06/2020 15:25

I know mine feel the same , it’s horrible for them isn’t it.

Eyewhisker · 03/06/2020 15:31

Lucky Wales! I wish they would do the same here. Six months without school is terrible for children both socially and educationally and the stats are that the risk to children from this virus is very very low. The Public Health England document yesterday reported that there have been fewer than expected deaths of under 15s in the last few months, highlighting that thankfully they have minimal risk.

palacegirl77 · 03/06/2020 15:37

Minimal risk but to be fair they would be reduced risks wouldnt there as if theyre not at school theyre less likely to catch it? Be interesting to see what happens now some children are back. Pray theyll be ok.

Wishforanishwishdiash · 03/06/2020 15:40

Three kids, three different school, working from home full time.
We figure 6 days per kid, likely not the same day.

SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE. I CANNOT CARRY ON.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 03/06/2020 15:44

Get the kids back for a few weeks, spread it around during the summer while it's quiet in ITU

Extra week hol at October half term to coincide with an expected peak/lockdown

Call me cynical 🙂

Boredsillyathome · 03/06/2020 15:45

Really hope England announce the same as Wales for schools, my daughter needs to get back to school and some sort of normality, home schooling is just a nightmare

cantkeepawayforever · 03/06/2020 15:47

Six months without school is terrible for children both socially and educationally and the stats are that the risk to children from this virus is very very low.

As children need adults to staff and clean their schools, irt is not only the risk to children that needs to be considered. The ability of children to carry the virus and then infect adults is the really key unknown here - if a child carries the virus asymptomatically and then spends 6 hours in a primary classroom with 9 others and a teacher, what is the risk of transmission to the other children, what is the risk of infecting the teacher, and what is the risk that one child can transmit it to another who can then take it home to infect their household? We don't really know, because there is no pre-lockdown research.

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