Surely they’ll have to allow us to go to one other household now

[SpongeCake23]

Now that Dominic Cummings has done what he’s done and the government have supported him, saying he’s done nothing wrong.
Surely they’re going to have to allow us to mix with one household soon, otherwise it’s a huge hypocrisy.

He needs to go.

However, this is the bottom line stolen from a PP...

Grow up. You’re being told not to mix with family so you don’t spread the virus and destroy the NHS. Just because some tosspot politician has misbehaved doesn’t mean you should be liberated.
It’s not a game

They wanted a backup plan in case they needed hospital care and his sister could then care for the 4yr old.

Oh wouldn't we all love a backup plan? Just in case?

IF they both had to be in hospital, surely one of their aides, nannies, well connected friends or family would have picked the little one up and taken him to Cumming's sister?

What a whole load of nonsense. It was never about individuals doing what they thought was common sense or having a lovely back up plan, it was and still is about collectively ensuring that the virus can be adequately managed in order not to overwhelm the NHS and hoepfully save lives in the process. If everyone arranged their own little private back up plan, like Cummings, we would have even more deaths.

Cummings failed to do his bit.

@merrymouse

However, to support Cummings, the government have upended their entire virus control strategy, and that is pretty much the only issue worth talking about at the moment

Precisely. Why are they doing this?

that is pretty much the only issue worth talking about at the moment.'

No, there are also other issues worth talking about. PPE, the app trial, the clinical trials both with vaccines and treatment. R rates in various parts of the country, public transport safety, the progress on schools returning. But no he ill-advisedly took his DC to be near family support and someone allegedly saw someone in the woods and that is all the MSM are interested in.

PPE, the app trial, the clinical trials both with vaccines and treatment. R rates in various parts of the country, public transport safety, the progress on schools returning.

And all of this is completely irrelevant because the government have abandoned all attempts to enforce lock down rules to save a government advisor.

But no he ill-advisedly took his DC to be near family support and someone allegedly saw someone in the woods and that is all the MSM are interested in.

How are you not seeing this? All he had to do was apologise and agree that what he did was wrong. Most people in the UK don't know who Dominic Cummings is or what he does, so wouldn't notice if he stayed or resigned and came back in 6 months or if he only pretended to resign.

However, to defend Dominic Cummings, the government have junked their entire strategy. There is no point in having a tracking and testing system if you can only ask people to isolate voluntarily. This was not something forced on them by the 'MSM'. They have chosen to do this.

Absolutely right, @merrymouse Very few people gave a toss about DC until about 48 hours ago. Yet it turns out he is worth the government overturning their entire lockdown policy (not that I am sorry about this in the slightest, as it's a bloody nightmare). Very bizarre.

'And all of this is completely irrelevant because the government have abandoned all attempts to enforce lock down rules to save a government advisor.'

PPE is completely irrelevant? Well I don't think those in health and social care would agree with you. The MSM were screeching everyday until recently that the government and NHS procurers had failed abysmally so what's happened, has that been fixed? Hmm don't think treatment and vaccines progress is 'completely irrelevant' either.

Of course the Cummings story should be covered in the media but my point actually was it should be part of the coverage not all of it.

I find it strange that a witness with a photographic memory wrote his registration number down, you wouldn't think he'd need to.

I find it strange that a witness with a photographic memory wrote his registration number down, you wouldn't think he'd need to.

Then you don't know how photographic memory works, nor indeed evidence.

I find it strange that a witness with a photographic memory wrote his registration number down, you wouldn't think he'd need to.

I find it strange you seem awfully invested in defending him.

GetOffYourHighHorse, effective PPE, vaccine and treatment policies all depend on controlling the spread of the virus in the immediate future. The government abandoned attempts to control the spread of the virus yesterday.

I think if I had seen Dominic Cummings out and about, and saw him at his car, I would most definitely have been tempted to write his number plate down, take a photo of him, and send it straight to the Press. Why? Because relatives have had cancer treatment delayed, others have had much needed Ops postponed, others are worried about their livelihoods, but he might have needed childcare and going to his Mother's birthday party was important.

It stinks and most of the public know it stinks.

Whatever happened to -
Well if they can travel, they can work.
Breathing get to work.
Can go to a party.
Go on social media,
And countless other shite spouted before all this.

You know, all the stuff piled onto single parents, people on sick leave, those incapable of working etc.

Meanwhile, two people decided, let's go on a trip to see the family every week or whatever. It was not essential.

They have local friends and family.
Home delivery for food, just like anyone who don't have local help and support. They could have used Ubereats, Deliveroo, Just-eat like thousands were forced to or starve. Amazon, the various boxes like Morrisons were doing.

Instead, I'm not feeling well so let's go for a drive.

Is it any surprise I mean look at the great character of their elected leader. And unfortunately for the bots, many of us aren't going to quietly go away.

I'm thinking this is the real reason why a lot don't want to go back to work. Even socially distancing, once they are forced to get back into parliament it will mean we might be able to get to ask them directly.

And it's about MSM started reporting all this stuff. Until recently, we had to get the latest news about the UK from anywhere else apart from the UK. Well, of course I mean the things we aren't supposed to know.

If DC genuinely believed that lives would be saved by everyone staying at home, he would have stayed at home. He wouldn't have wanted to run any risk of passing on a killer disease to his extended family.

That is assuming he cares more for other people than for his own convenience. Any evidence of that?

Even though he doesn't seem to have interacted with his parents, we all know that wasn't all the "stay put" advice was about. It was about keeping other people safe.

If he thought he might become seriously ill, wasn't there also a risk he might need to be hospitalised in Durham- taking infection from an infection hotspot to a place where there wasn't much of an outbreak? Figures show the pandemic only really got going in Durham after his arrival.

We were also discouraged from driving because of the risk of passing on infection in case of breakdown.

And if his fear was of becoming seriously ill, how did he know that wouldn't happen while he was driving?

And that is before we have even been asked to believe they drove all that way with a 4yo without a single comfort stop and without filling up on petrol.

HIs wife's account of how the 4yo was allowed to play nurse at his dad's bedside doesn't signal a high level of concern for other people, even their own child. Nor does sticking him in a car with a parent who was known to be ill.

Their local street have posted on twitter today pointing out that he would have had a leaflet through the door offering support in case of illness.

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer called for an inquiry, and warned that failure to sack [DC]* would 'undermine confidence' in the lockdown.
'It is an insult to sacrifices made by the British people that Boris Johnson has chosen to take no action against Dominic Cummings,' he said.
'The public will be forgiven for thinking there is one rule for the Prime Minister's closest adviser and another for the British people.'*

Thank God. An adult has finally arrived. I am quietly weeping with relief.

How long do we have to wait until he can take over?

@ponchek
Not until he's finished challenging them for a whole lot more hopefully. I would love for any adult to take over now.

But this children's' party has to carry on. If the adults close it too soon, children will either lay blame or try and do all that look's what I made, after they've put in couple of ingredients in the pan and someone else has done the grunt way.

Once this shit show is under control, Government btw and doing what they said they would in the beginning. Then hit them legally for every single law they have personally broken, including all the conspiracy to commit etc.

Former chief constable of Durham police. Mike Barton

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/24/defence-of-dominic-cummings-is-shameful-says-ex-durham-police-chief?

“It is clear he has broken the rules. It could not be clearer.
I cannot think of a worse example of a breach of the lockdown rules.
For it then to be defended by the government just beggars belief.”
......
“What is particularly sad and undermines completely the government position is
they seem to be operating in a bubble of self-privilege and denial
when they all should be leading by example.

‘Hypocrite’ was invented for these circumstances …
Of course it is double standards.”

Barton added:
“It feels like feudal times.
We make the rules and it is for you, the great unwashed, to follow them.”

Will be interesting to see how air travel will work out.

The airlines who are still run by dinosaurs have written a letter asking for restrictions lifted for the UK as it will impact businesses in the UK.

Yea I was confused. Countries started blocking flights from the UK back in March. When they've looked at easing restriction, they probably laugh as they scroll past the UK.

If my child teacher can teach him and 29 others, whilst caring for the key workers' children, and stay at home to teach children online. Then surely businesses could work out how to stay in touch in some other way?

Those countries with the blocks, still allow Import/Export. That's easier to isolate.

Although still trying to work out what restrictions they are talking about.

Once the restrictions started getting lifted even though they hadn't started. More countries blocked us.

Oh but wait. I thought it was really hard, and oh no, cannot do that? Whatever air travel authority won't allow it. Even though bans can be clearly be put in place.

Trust this be the one year I made a bloody New Years resolution. Work properly on my MH so things like this start to make sense.

I'm not joking btw. I legit have issues with my MH. I've struggled so have many over the past few months. I've stopped fighting myself, I win. I knew New years resolutions were a load of wank. And I'm supposed to be the "crazy" one.

I admit my political history is sketchy, and not even sure how to word it.

Has there ever been a government who has managed to kill off so many of its citizens during their time in power, outside times of war in the UK?

PissOffStayAtHomeDogMum

@merrymouse

However, to support Cummings, the government have upended their entire virus control strategy, and that is pretty much the only issue worth talking about at the moment

Precisely. Why are they doing this?“

I imagine he has a big, fat file and they’re all desperate to hang on to their careers/relationships/families/reputations (not necessarily in that order .