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What do they mean by "the science"?

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BeforeIPutOnMyMakeup · 18/05/2020 22:36

I've wondered about this for weeks as I have degrees in various types of science, but what does the government mean when they say "the science"?

Do they mean political science? Or is it another social science? Or is it the science Scientologists believe in? Or it simply pseudo-science?

I've written this because I've just read a thread about terms that come from the lockdown but some of the terms are not defined.

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PicsInRed · 19/05/2020 08:43

All I'm saying, is James I/IV would have been so proud.

He also followed the best recognised, mainstream science of the age.

PicsInRed · 19/05/2020 08:48

*VI!

Eyewhisker · 19/05/2020 08:49

It means - don’t blame us, blame our advisers

BeforeIPutOnMyMakeup · 19/05/2020 08:54

@ErrolTheDragon political science has the definition of the scientific analysis of political activity and behaviour - so is a science.

Social science has the definition the scientific study of human society and social relationships - so is also a science

Also you don't study a science in a vacuum. For example every course I have some has had some Mathematics in it. Mathematics is the abstract science of numbers, quantity and space, ether as abstract concepts or as applied to other disciplines.

So I'm getting the feeling the governments "the science" is really political science.

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ErrolTheDragon · 19/05/2020 09:04

That's arguable.
Some aspects of 'behavioural sciences' may be genuinely scientific (fitting with the definition of 'science') but other aspect ... not so much.

bibliomania · 19/05/2020 10:18

The strength of science lies in the challenging of theories, so that over time, the best available understanding emerges. Survival of the fittest data. But this takes time and data. Good science won't stop incorrect theories, it just kills them off eventually. So you can have the best scientists at work, and they won't be right from day 1. All that happens is thithe wrong explanations are weeded out over time.

bibliomania · 19/05/2020 10:18

Survival of the fittest ideas, that should say.

MashedPotatoBrainz · 19/05/2020 10:21

It's obvious isn't it? By 'the science' they mean the magical unicorn science that absolves them of responsibility. 'Not our fault, the science made us do it.'

Michelleoftheresistance · 19/05/2020 10:31

There's a Telegraph article questioning this too today, and commenting that the govt seem to be pulling this phrase out like a rabbit out of a hat to deflect questions and justify.

Increasingly it's evident that they have their own agenda and will edit, twist, manipulate and squash facts and evidence any which way they can to stuff it into the 'this is the right thing to do' hole rather than be honest about it. It identifies as science and they identify as being honest and open with the British public.

It's rather like the tidal wave of articles and bits of research about how jolly good school is and how children don't get covid suddenly unleashed to drown out early years workers asking how to do their job with both hands and one leg tied behind their backs, it's not subtle. Less 'nudge unit' than Mr Bean and a Sledgehammer Unit.

BeforeIPutOnMyMakeup · 19/05/2020 18:04

@MashedPotatoBrainz ahh the "Dr" Gillian Mckeith version of science.

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