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Bubbles Do not moan

27 replies

lamprvlapl · 16/05/2020 16:46

How many parents do you think will moan about the bubbles?

Milly can't be in that bubble as the staggered time to drop off is 9.30 and Alfie is due at 9am.

Bertie sneezed on Arthur yesterday so can he change to another bubble?

All dd's friends are in another bubble can we swap bubbles?

Reece has fallen out with Ryan he wants to be in Ellies bubble can we swap?

Esme doesn't like her new bubble teacher she misses her teacher can we complain?

Please don't moan about bubbles. I am concerned enough about sending my child back as we live with over 70s.

How many will want to swap. I see it being carnage judging by posts on here and knowing so many precious people in real life.

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The80sweregreat · 16/05/2020 17:09

I think the children will be traumatised by this friends bubble idea! They all fall out with each other daily ( even the older years) let alone Reception. Their teachers and TAs will spend all day trying to stop them all crying about the friends issues!

Lumene · 16/05/2020 17:14

Why should people not voice their concerns about a strange new system?

Sorry you are worried, but not sure why everyone else being quiet about their worries would make a difference to your situation?

cabbageking · 16/05/2020 17:15

Some parents will moan regardless.

The Governing Board should be releasing something to support the Head and the decisions taken. If parents are not happy with that group parents have the choice to keep the child home as it is not statutory to attend school presently.

We are inviting some children back into school and the conditions will be set out and those parents can agree to send theIr child in or keep the child at home. But the groups will not be changing or the reduced integration at break or lunch. Those 10 children will not be mixing with the other children unless something goes wrong.

We are not taking year 6 back and this has caused some parents to complain already.
Parents have assumed schools are back on the 1st without checking with the school.

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 16/05/2020 17:25

It is so frustrating to hear Mr Williamson talk about how important education is but then talk about how children have to be 2 metres apart and not share equipment.

Can I just ask how you keep reception children sat at tables 2 metres apart with no resources or things to play with. Teachers are supposed to social distance so can't go to children. How is any quality early years learning going to happen? It really will be child care and that is so distressing for teachers and pupils.

We would love to ignore the directives but then the danger levels according to Jennie Harris goes up. We just can't deep clean Lego, cars, dolls house etc every day so do we just let them play or take away play from our early years classrooms.

Would love to know how people would address this and keep 3-5 year olds busy with no toys or equipment at all?

cabbageking · 16/05/2020 17:38

Children don't need to be 2 metres away from other children in primary.
The advice acknowledged this is unlikely.

Carlislemumof4 · 16/05/2020 18:09

Bubbles are arbitrary where my DCs are concerned. With three children in three different years at primary that's effectively all day family contact with at least 42 other pupils and 3 members of staff.

Staggered drop offs and pick ups may be impractical depending on what our school suggest. I'm not going to spend all morning and afternoon going backwards and forwards, having to take my other children back with me each time.

Who would be in charge of my Year 1 child does matter. In the week before school closed her teacher was self-isolating, the TA's in charge of her class were just telling her to read to herself or get on in her Maths workbook as best she could.

She's made huge progress with my one on one support at home in the last few weeks.

Her class teacher is also the only one who can fully control the challenging behaviour of a couple of other pupils in her class. There have been school-wide safeguarding concerns, improvements were being made but it's hard to have confidence they'll be safe.

Regardless, we won't be sending ours until September due to the high local infection rate here in Cumbria.

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 16/05/2020 18:18

Susan Harris today said the children should be sat 2m apart. It's going to be different from classroom to classroom and from school to school.

RigaBalsam · 16/05/2020 18:32

Jenny Harries? She did indeed say that maybe she hasn't read the DFE guidelines.

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 16/05/2020 18:33

Oh my goodness, yes Jenny Harries, what happened there?

TheTiaraManager · 16/05/2020 19:42

Yes and Harries said children won't try to share lunchboxes! I don't think she's met a child before

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 16/05/2020 20:22

I have been in teaching key worker and vulnerable children. We have had nose bleeds, toileting issues and my favourite when a little one asked me to open their crisps. As I opened it I asked if they had had a go at opening it and they said 'Yes I used my teeth'. I had noticed it was a bit wet, my sixth hand wash of the day was needed.

Snuggles81 · 16/05/2020 20:23

Yes Jenny Harries stated it wasn't a problem as the plan was for the children to be at separate desks!! She has no understanding of how EYFS (and some year 1 classes) work.

This is the main issue we the gudiance for reopening it doesn't allow for best practice for our youngest children.

The government are taking about the well being of our children, but are suggesting measures which go completely against the development of our children.

Snuggles81 · 16/05/2020 20:25

Sorry for dreadful typos in above post. with talking

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 16/05/2020 20:44

This is a reception bubble before and after applying government directives! It's ready for the children but I'm not sure little children are ready for this!

Bubbles Do not moan
cabbageking · 16/05/2020 20:50

can you imagine the length of a queue for 10 children with a staff member at each end going the to toilet or just coming in from the playground? Over 70 foot long! One child in the middle could sneak into another room and you wouldn't notice for a while.

Whilst there are time you can observe the distance there will be times when it is much closer.

stayingaliveisawayoflife · 16/05/2020 20:58

We haven't got the staff for 2 to a class! We only have one per bubble and some of those will be TAs. We also will have year one children in year 5 classrooms so the furniture will be nice and big for them!

practicallyperfectwithprosecco · 17/05/2020 09:18

In our school at the moment every bubble has a teacher

Reception and yr2 teachers
Year 1 and year 3 teachers
Year 6 and year 5 teachers

YR and Y1 have TAs so 2 adults per class

HLTAs x 3 have key worker children as both are year 4 teachers are shielding due to health or pregnancy.

Year 6 extra adults still a work in progress. Remaining TAs and family workers will be the support here.

We are a junior and infant school so staff are being shared between the 2 schools. Normally we are 2 separate schools.

No idea where the rest of children go when they come back as no classrooms or staff left over.

JoeExoticsEyebrowRing · 17/05/2020 09:24

Milly can't be in that bubble as the staggered time to drop off is 9.30 and Alfie is due at 9am.

This will actually potentially be a bit of an issue for us - DH will have to do drop offs because I will be at work (in another school) and wasting an possibly an hour in all the beginning and end of his working day hanging around (where I'm not sure?!) because our kids are in different bubbles is far from ideal! Ideally our kids would have the same drop off and pick up? I don't know, ive not read about this so am only going on this thread, but it occurred to me straight away.

thelockdownbellyisoutofcontrol · 17/05/2020 09:50

I wouldn't call it "precious" to be worried about bubbles.
The only reason my DCs want to go back to school is because they are desperately missing their friends. They will be very sad indeed if they aren't allowed to mix with their best friends. My youngest in particular is very likely to "give up" at school of these are the conditions he's expecting to work within. I'm not precious, I'm worried about his mental health Sad

BrutusMcDogface · 17/05/2020 10:10

I hope that you have the option not to send your children back if you don’t want to. We aren’t sending ours back but we’re in a fortunate position that I’m a sahm so we don’t have to.

RigaBalsam · 17/05/2020 10:29

You do have the option not to send them back.

It's natural kids want to be with their friends but honestly there is no easy answer. I can envisage lots of problems.

Mumoftwo0357 · 18/05/2020 01:49

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Mumoftwo0357 · 18/05/2020 01:53

Argh sorry posted that on wrong thread. Still had a window open from yesterday. Apologies.

SionnachRua · 18/05/2020 02:05

Oh of course they'll complain, sure look at the complaining on MN already about everything school related.

There's a very funny poem for teachers about the struggles of arranging regular seating in classrooms. I thought of it straight away but can't for the life of me find it. It illustrates all the issues in regular teaching so well - it'll be magnified times 100 during this. People are anxious and will take it out on teachers.

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