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What will the NHS look like after this?

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EachandEveryone · 16/05/2020 13:40

I work in a hospital. As you all know services have been minimised appart from adult wards. Childrens wards have more or less been centralised so, what will happen to them afterwards now that the government will see that centralising them has worked? Are we now going to see some kind of super hospitals like the Evelina in London which does wonderful things and is attached to a big hospital for adults. I believe Glasgow and Manchester do similar. What will become of the smaller hospitals?

Now that we are being treated diagnosed online and using youtube for things like physio is this going to be the future? Are we heading towards privatisation even quicker now? Or will we have to start paying for face to face appointments at the GP like in Ireland?

Nothing is going to be the same again, is it?

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Ginfilledcats · 16/05/2020 13:50

Speaking as a manager in a small DGH, we were already in the process of sharing services/using hub and spoke models with larger trusts in our region as we simply cannot recruit the medics needed to provide the services. The hospital remain where it is as it serves such a huge population, but the individual trust I imagine will be taken over by one of the larger in time to come. And that was before covid.

Funny you mention Manchester as I worked there as wythenshawe and CMFT merged a couple of years ago. When I left, about 6m ago, they were merged by name and management only really, not many of the services had joined up completely though it was heading that way. It takes years to complete a merger like that. So yes I think in years to come we'll have less trusts and they'll all be super trusts, with hub and spoke models delivering more local care.

I think the advancement in technology for appointments is a brilliant thing to come out of covid. This development was already in the works but timetabled to be established in the next 2 years or so and was being met with great resistance from some doctors and nurses (not all) covid made people look at things differently. Telephone appointments mean people don't have to leave work for hours to travel, park and wait for their appointment, elderly or house bound don't have to leave or rely on family or PTS to take them. Same for video conferencing. And you can schedule more patients into the same time frame doing either of those solutions, therefore the waiting lists will go down quicker.
Face to face appointments will always be necessary for examinations and tests etc. But either the virus and any other outbreaks we get (even just basic flu and noro virus) the less people in the hospital the less risk to the patients and the staff, therefore staff sickness should decrease (in theory, unlikely in reality).

Our doctors have gone through all our waiting lists, reviewing hundreds of patients notes and most recent results to identify any risk in delaying them, anyone who could actually be simply discharged with a letter etc, which brings the wait times down for others and avoids unnecessary appointments.

The negative aspect that I hope is reversed ASAP is the reduction of provision in some areas. Speaking as a pregnant patient, I'm aware other pregnant people have had lots of the "standard" antenatal appointments cancelled or changed to telephone which isn't ideal (I personally haven't had any change to my care) and I hope those provisions are reinstated as they're so important. I presume maternity isn't the only place negatively affected.

Big changes are afoot I am certain, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Hopefully.

I'm ever the optimist though! And the NHS has been poorly managed by the big wigs and central government for years so I doubt that will change!

Ginfilledcats · 16/05/2020 13:52

Oh and I doubt this who episode will force privatisation any quicker (I think the gov have realised how important it is and how it couldn't be funded any other way) however that does still seem to be the intent of the conservatives!

And there's a lot of negativity towards paying for GP Appts as it prohibits those who cannot afford from getting the care that could prevent more serious complications or admissions. I'm sure you know all that though being in the NHS.

With this government and what's happened over the last few months I suppose anything is possible.....

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 16/05/2020 13:58

I have welcomed the use of ICT to treat people. This could have been done before but the senior managers always were reluctant to try it. They are seeing that we can carry on, do more as we are avoiding travel time and expense and delivering a service so hopefully this innovation will continue! Smile

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