Why have we not heard complaining fro people working in private sector?

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You’d think the only people working at the moment were public sector. DH and I have luckily worked throughout the lockdown, DH is in construction, they have cracked on and found a way around every Covid19 related issue quietly and without fuss. Exactly the same in my workplace (manufacturing). Mainly it’s not rocket science. You don’t hear complaints from supermarket staff or smaller shops keepers.
I’m getting increasingly angry at sectors refusing to get back to work and it’s always public sector jobs where they have big unions and guaranteed wages and no threat of being laid off. Things need to dramatically change, people need to accept the risks and get back to work or hand their notice in. Schools are a prime example and next it’s going to be NHS therapies. Can’t they see they’re refusing to do their job is ultimately going to cause more deaths and have a much detrimental impact than Covid19 long term? Why are public sector workers so special?

@LangClegsInSpace nine confirmed cases according to The Barnsley Chronicle

Are you asking why parliament is not back and why they are working from home? I don't hear many people asking that? Why are they not in the workplace?

Probably because those in an office or workplace can wear PPE and distance. They can change hours to work well up to 10pm if necessary to stagger workers in the building. Those in schools can't wear PPE and can't distance nor can children work until 10pm. Why the double standards in advice you should be asking?

good luck with that one!

My sister is a teacher, has worked in school throughout the lock down and thinks that everyone should stop moaning and get back to work.

I have two in-laws who are also teachers who have been working at home, had less to do than normal. They are both annoyed about having to return. In their heads they'd hoped for a September return and are pissed off it will be sooner.

Make of that what you will.

It's a completely new situation. Teaching (and the obstacles with social distancing) is different to most other jobs and industries. I've been really impressed with the work being set remotely and how responsive the teachers are but wonder for how long remote learning is sustainable for, especially for kids in year 10 and 12. No idea what the ideal solution is

I'm teacher, albeit adults, and I am fully prepared to go back into the classroom in Sept - accepting risks. There is risk in driving there. Risk is a normal part of life. If / wheh I catch it I am very unlikely to die, so don't see a major problem.

There is conflicting reports on how effective school children are at spreading Covid19 - from very low risk to very high. Given there can be no social distancing in a fully operational education setting that's pretty important information to find out for keeping Covid # down nationally.

As teachers pre lockdown we were accepting that we were working amongst the virus. And we will go back whilst the virus still circulates. But I refer you to my first paragraph.

And I AM cautious. DP wfh in a tech industry and he caught Covid19 and got it very badly - he is fit & healthy with no underlying health conditions. Where did catch it? We can't be 100% of course but I or the the teenage dcs are a good bet as the source, as we both spend days in schools - incidentally we were completely fine.

For my role, i cannot post my views publically. It would be a disciplinary matter.

Make of that what you will

I make of that, that you don't get on very well with your in-laws...

There's is no evidence that children pass it on to any serious degree.

There’s no evidence they don’t. Shall we wait a bit for some evidence or just chuck everyone into a big viral soup and see how it goes?

I agree with Walker : Probably because those in an office or workplace can wear PPE and distance. They can change hours to work well up to 10pm if necessary to stagger workers in the building. Those in schools can't wear PPE and can't distance nor can children work until 10pm. Why the double standards in advice you should be asking?
And will just add that teachers HAVE been at work for the duration AND have worked through the usual half term break to keep things going. Unless you are a teacher or school staff you might not comprehend the extent of the workload and the future workload we are already preparing for due to the massive impact of covid-19. It is a cery different kind of work at the moment.

Well, you'd be wrong. I get along with them very well. But I've seen a pattern develop over this time where generally, people who have been going out of the house to work are less anxious than people who have stayed at home.

The lack of connection and society has skewed a lot of people's perception of risk, given them a distorted expectation of safety and made them feel very scared about a virus that in the vast majority of cases is no where near life threatening.

OP I don't really understand what you are saying. I work in the public sector (not healthcare). We've been working from home with a similar workload to before the lockdown. We are reluctant to go back until we are sure our workplace is safe because FIVE OF MY COLLEAGUES DIED! I think that's a fair enough reason to be cautious. Not moaning.

Public sector jobs in cities are risky places to work in terms of the virus. If you work in a small town or in the private sector you may not get this. I am exposed to really large numbers of people from day to day with no PPE. A recent study has found that people doing jobs like this are MORE vulnerable to catching the disease than health workers. Stop thinking about your own circumstances and think about that for a minute. That's not moaning it's a sensible wish to protect my chances of living.

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I’ve heard plenty of complaining from admin, call centre, sales etc about being forced into work unsafely. It was all over social media but not MSM. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there.

You obviously didn't see any of the posts from supermarket staff moaning about risking their lives so someone could buy whatever they considered non essential.

And teachers have been going into schools on a rota to teach vulnerable kids and those of nurses and doctors etc. They’ve also been working from home. For them it’s about safety of all not that they don’t want to go in. Construction workers etc aren’t responsible for the livelihoods of children so they don’t have that worth to voice.

You’re right 1forsorrow I saw lots of those too.

There’s no evidence they don’t. Shall we wait a bit for some evidence or just chuck everyone into a big viral soup and see how it goes? Yes because that went so well with the care homes didn't it? The govt telling them it was fine to take people with covid into homes was really well thought out. The result has caused upset after the event, I wonder if people will be happy if the "experiment" with children and teachers' lives go the same way.

@Saladmakesmesad Sorry that looks like I'm disagreeing with you, I was actually agreeing.

Except teachers haven't stopped working! Also, yes, they have strong unions who help protect their workers - so could private sector workers if they organised and unionised. Stop trying to wedge divides between categories of workers who are all probably worried and scared during a scary time for lots of different reasons.

Unions. Heavily unionised workforces tend to be more prevalent in the public sector.

Many people in the company I work for seem to think we're running a charity not a business right now.

@LangClegsInSpace cases confirmed at Asos www.barnsleychronicle.com/article/coronavirus-cases-confirmed-at-asos

There have been walkouts and lots of restrictions put in place by the private sector OP. And workers are not complaining, they are demanding safe working practice. Which is perfectly reasonable whether you are talking food production, teaching, medicine or shop workers.

Why are we just talking about teachers when we're taking about public sector workers? What about librarians? Why haven't they opened the libraries yet? Why are we letting the librarians sit around at home on full pay for little or no work?!