What on earth is going on?????

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So far today, I’ve seen a headline stating that coronavirus could be wiped out of London in weeks. I’ve seen a headline saying the rate of infection is higher than they thought and has risen in the last week. I’ve seen a video of Matt Hancock saying the ‘R’ is unlikely to go above 1. I’ve also seen an article on Sky News saying that the government are now saying the ‘R’ isn’t actually that important (after previously stressing how vital it was for it to stay below 1).

My question is, does anyone actually know what’s going on at the moment? I can’t make any sense of the information we are being fed by the government and the media. I have tried to be positive about the government, even although I didn’t vote Tory and am not a big Boris fan. I tried to put all that aside and just support our government in trying to work a way through this. I actually initially convinced myself they were doing their best, but I’m just really getting down about all of the misinformation.

In all honesty, I’m having a bad day today so this could be why this has frustrated me so much. I just can’t understand how we are all going to navigate our way through this when there are so many mixed messages. That light at the end of the tunnel is just starting to feel further and further away

@sadie

Excited mum was talking about Williamson and you replied about Hancock having a go.

I pointed that out and you’re talking about a different Hancock piece.

I’m so confused.

You keep changing tangents with everyone in a weird way. Are you on lots of threads at once?

Anyway goodnight.

You know what your doing Sadie and so do we.

I see you !
Deflect deflect deflect

Night !

So far today, I’ve seen a headline stating that coronavirus could be wiped out of London in weeks
That's when you know someone - either the media, the government, or both is lying.

It's an easily seen through lie too. How on earth will London be wiped clean of Covid when the airports still have thousands arriving daily with no checks or quarantine whatsoever. It's never going to get better whilst that's going on.

This is one of those cases where it's best to use common sense to work out what's going on. Look at what's actually happening rather than what we're being told is happening. We have more deaths than nearly anywhere else in the world. And our death rate is one of the highest in the world. We're in a big mess that the government needs to sort out. It's achievable given many other countries have managed it. Tests, early treatment including drugs, enough PPE, masks for the public, border restrictions. These are the key issues.

it's not necessarily reflective of the left-right spectrum.
That's definitely true. Many other countries worldwide have dealt with it better than us. Right and left wing governments.

The government eased lockdown too early and has lost control of the messaging. We’re fucked.

It's not too late to mitigate the damage. Or at least prevent further damage. If we take action now we can avoid ending up in an even worse position several months later

Other countries have managed it. We just need to get on with tests, getting enough PPE for frontline staff, getting enough drugs and equipment, treat early, masks for the public. These measures would allow us to ease lockdown properly without loads more avoidable deaths and worse economic damage. Like I say it's achievable because other countries have done it.

Fear and confusion. This is how they control us.

The government.and powers that be, know too well, what all the people in the country think, they know that people wan't to go places, go everywhere again. But they just have to be fully prepared, for anything unseen that might happen. It would look bad for them, if they were to give the green light for everything now, and then things suddenly might turn bad again later.

@Reallybadidea

*Have people forgotten the scenes from Italy already? Hospitals completely overwhelmed and the army being used to move truck loads of bodies around. This country escaped that by a whisker. Watch Hospital on BBC1 - major London hospitals needing to overspill from itu into operating theatres. That is unprecedented.

I work outside of London and our hospital had to redeploy clinical staff from virtually every area of the hospital to look after covid patients on itu. Operations and routine NHS care had to be postponed because of the virus not the lockdown. We are still looking after around 5 times as many critically ill patients as we would do normally. Staff are exhausted. We cannot deal with a second wave at the moment. And it really isn't just the elderly or the young who weren't 'healthy' beforehand who are dying. Believe that if it makes you feel better, but it isn't just morbidly obese men with heart disease who are dying. And just because someone had a pre-existing health condition like asthma or diabetes doesn't make them disposable*

People have short memories! And so many in here think that was 'fake'

They've also drunk the cool aid re the vast majority being old people already on their death beds and anyone younger having 'underlying conditions' The picture being they're 'sick' anyway when the truth is we're not.

God alone knows what it'll take to make some people take this seriously & see the government for what it is. Sadly probably a LOT more deaths of people under 40.

The Govt don't care about the children or their education, they care about them being babysat so the parents can get back to work

Thank you for what you do 🌷

@ToffeeYoghurt

It's not too late to mitigate the damage. Or at least prevent further damage. If we take action now we can avoid ending up in an even worse position several months later
Other countries have managed it. We just need to get on with tests, getting enough PPE for frontline staff, getting enough drugs and equipment, treat early, masks for the public. These measures would allow us to ease lockdown properly without loads more avoidable deaths and worse economic damage. Like I say it's achievable because other countries have done it

Very true. except our Country Isn't being led by people like Jacinta Arden. Unfortunately

@Sadie789

SSD is not bonkers NOR is she the only one to notice your posts. Don't flatter yourself. We notice Trump as well.

I think it’s absolutely hilarious you all think I’m some sort of government plant.

Absolutely hilarious.

How paranoid people are (yet equally unwilling to question or challenge the MSM narrative).

Genuine and much needed LOL.

@Mumoftwo0357 I was replying to @SquishySquirmy re Hancock.

You could always trying reading the posts.

"the government don't write the headlines"
... Except when they do!
Like in March when Hancock helpfully directed the public to much needed information on Coronavirus... With a link to an article he had written in the Telegraph behind a paywall

The writers of articles in newspapers do not write the headline. That is done by the copy editor.

I work outside of London and our hospital had to redeploy clinical staff from virtually every area of the hospital to look after covid patients on itu. Operations and routine NHS care had to be postponed because of the virus not the lockdown. We are still looking after around 5 times as many critically ill patients as we would do normally. Staff are exhausted. We cannot deal with a second wave at the moment

Where are you, where it's still very busy, the NE or Cumbria? I totally agree that everything had to shut down and staff were redeployed. However, I understood that things had calmed down hugely. Our local hospital now has 800+ beds free, and had no CV ITU admissions for several days.

Worryingly people still aren't presenting with the emergencies expected (MIs etc). The main problem seems to be restructuring the service/hospital to recommence routine services and keep people safe.

Positively, people seem to be reengaging with GPs again, so maybe 'normal' healthcare is starting to get up and running.

I work in a tertiary setting, we take the very sickest patients from all over the region (not in the North). It is less busy than it was and we're no longer at capacity, but the referrals are still coming.

@Flaxmeadow - the sub would traditionally write headlines for print publications yes.

Digital this is not the case. Headlines are written by the journalist. It never goes through a sub. It might get a glance from the news editor on the desk that day but not in the way a sub would have had to craft a headline to fit column space. Which is why there are so many mistakes in headlines and copy online. No one is reading them, there are too many articles being churned out. They just get published and desked ASAP to try and catch the SEO.

Most of the subs bench on nationals have been made redundant now so even print now has journalists writing headlines.

Project Fear

There's a headline!