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Liverpool schools will not be opening June 1st expect for key worker/vulnerable dc

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ChangedMyName4This1 · 15/05/2020 13:49

I definitely agree with this decision, I expect many other councils will do the same.

ENQUIRIES: Steve Reddy, Director,
Children & Young People’s Service. OUR REF: SR/RB/JJ
DATE:
Dear Parents and Carers
Liverpool Position on School Re-openings
I am writing to explain Liverpool’s position on the re-opening of schools. I know that many of you were greatly encouraged by the Mayor’s recent position on the re-opening of schools.
I have since written to all headteachers asking that, from 1 June, Liverpool schools open for key workers’ children1 and vulnerable children2 only. Schools will not re-open to any other pupils at this stage.
We know some employers will be encouraging people to return to work. But most schools will not be able to open for any other children on 1 June.
Safe Space Hubs will close on Friday 22 May. Children who have been attending hubs will return to their home schools on Monday 1 June. All settings will be closed for the half- term holiday to children. Our hubs have been a real success story. I am sure you would
1 NHS staff; social workers, care workers, health and social care staff and those required to maintain the sector; teachers, specialist education professionals and nursery staff; staff essential to the operation of the justice system; staff involved in the management of the deceased; administrative staff in local and central government essential to the delivery of the COVID -19 response or the delivery of essential public services, such as the payment of benefits. This includes government agencies and arms -length bodies; staff delivering essential public services such as payment of benefits; staff involved in the distribution of food or other k ey goods; police and police support staff; fire and rescue staff and support staff; transport workers; utilities workers; probation staff; IT staff necessary to support Covid-19 response; payment providers; waste disposal service presumably including refuse collection; armed forces personnel; MoD civilian staff and contractors; National Crime Agency; border security; national security staff; religi ons and charity staff; journalists and broadcasters; university staff working in a research role to help fight Covid -19 to the list of eligible workers.
2 This includes children with an EHCP who have had a recent risk assessment.
Liverpool City Council
Cunard Building, Water Street, Liverpool, L3 1AH
T: 0151 233 0480
E: [email protected] W.liverpool.gov.uk

want to join me in thanking everyone across the city who has helped ensure they have run so well.
Our guiding principle is that schools can only re-open to other pupils when it is safe to do so and not a moment before. Only once we can be sure that schools are safe for both children and staff will they be able to open to more children. The safety of your child, and of our staff, is our top priority.
Some parents have asked me when schools may fully re-open. This will vary from school to school. Each headteacher has to rigorously assess the risks of fully re-opening for their particular school. The size and layout of the school building, and the availability of staff, will affect their assessments. It will be the case that the schools will do it differently. Your child’s headteacher will be in touch with you in due course.
I know that the last two months have not been easy. But in troubled times our city never fails to come together and show itself at its best. Parents, carers and families have been a deep source of comfort to our children – even as we have all been dealing with new situations. Thank you so much.
I think many of us have grown further in our admiration for those who work and teach in our nurseries, schools and colleges. We now recognize even more the important role nurseries, schools and colleges play in our lives, and in our communities. They are much more than places of learning! They have become care providers, meal voucher distributors, PPE manufacturers, providers of sanitary products – in short, they continue to be the beating heart of local communities.
We will not be pressuring anyone to send their child to school since you know your children
and personal situation best. Once you have all the information, you will be able to make an
informed decision. The government has made it clear they will not be fining parents for not
sending children into school during this term. However, if you are supported by a social
worker and your social worker advises that your child needs to attend school, it is important
you follow this advice.
But these are unsettling times. We must all keep looking out for our children, and how they are reacting. We must all watch out for their emotional and mental health needs, even if they seem to be coping well for now. My team is working with many professionals across the city to ensure the right support is in place in schools for everyone who needs it.
There is no guarantee to what the ‘new normal’ will look like in our schools. But
I want you and your child to know that when they do return to school, my colleagues and I are working hard to ensure they return to an even better place than when they left. I am unflinching in my commitment that your children – Liverpool’s present and future – get the best possible care and education.
Liverpool City Council
Cunard Building, Water Street, Liverpool, L3 1AH
T: 0151 233 0480
E: [email protected] W.liverpool.gov.uk

Yours sincerely,
Steve Reddy
Director for Children’s and Young Peoples Services
Liverpool City Council
Cunard Building, Water Street, Liverpool, L3 1AH
T: 0151 233 0480
E: [email protected] W.liverpool.gov.uk

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Sandybval · 15/05/2020 18:13

Each headteacher has to rigorously assess the risks of fully re-opening for their particular school.

Have they not been looking into the feasibility of social distancing etc since this started though? I am not saying this means they would have a solution, but it seems that they are saying they need time to look into it. I hope schools here take a more sensible approach and think of children's welfare beyond covid.

Sandybval · 15/05/2020 18:14

Also if it's only the year groups listed in the guidance, surely they will have room? Whether they have staff is another matter.

RigaBalsam · 15/05/2020 18:15

Hartlepool are also doing the same.

Keepdistance · 15/05/2020 18:19

Im gad they arent reopening r id close to. Higher everywhere but london.
No before or after care here either. I would not want my kids' group mixing in those too. In fact if i wanted to send back and that were open i would specifically request not going with children in b/a care

daisymay133 · 15/05/2020 18:20

They’ll not have the staff

Or who’ll be doing the home schoooing for the other 3 year groups

In single entry forms there’s usually only one teacher per year so you’d need more staff

I expect most will offer part time so the other teachers of the other year groups are free to continue home schooling

PicsInRed · 15/05/2020 18:26

Um no, before and after school care is not returning. Too many children being picked up and dropped off at the same time.

Before and after school care involves staggered drop off and pick up - as it's on the parent's schedule.

Drop of at school at a fixed 8.50 and pick up at 3 30pm on the dot are where the choke points are.

PicsInRed · 15/05/2020 18:30

This is a disastrous decision for working single parents.

Completely agree - as well as many married women who were trying to get some financial independence from their husband. The burden of this will fall disproportionately on women (who are also heavily employed in the public sector).

I wonder how much consultation Steve Reddy engaged in with women's groups? My guess = zero.

Itisasecret · 15/05/2020 18:34

@pics it’s against the government guidance for opening. You can’t mix ‘bubbles’ of children. So no it will not be returning because of staff and the fact setting will not be protected if they ignore it. Not to mention, it doesn’t matter anyway. If key workers take up the provision in most settings, they are full.

daisymay133 · 15/05/2020 18:34

Before and after won’t be on

It goes against the bubble idea of kids only mixing in their group of 15. It makes reducing class sizes pointless

sexbearhouse · 15/05/2020 19:25

Furlough isn't an option for public sector workers, many are also being denied any leave.

The LG agreement states that employees with childcare problems may have to be paid to stay at home. If you are personally experiencing something different ElizabethG81 then speak to your Union Rep.

sexbearhouse · 15/05/2020 19:28

What do you mean @PicsInRed? Completely agree - as well as many married women who were trying to get some financial independence from their husband. The burden of this will fall disproportionately on women (who are also heavily employed in the public sector).

Public Sector workers cannot be furloughed but if they cannot wfh and cannot attend work for childcare reasons they can stay at home on full pay. It's in the published guidelines.....

TheTigerKing · 15/05/2020 19:39

Guidance that came out yesterday states that before and after school care should only happen if you can keep them in their bubbles. That's a logistical nightmare. My school won't be operating before and after school care for that reason.

Working parents are going to find it difficult but people have to realise that schools can only open if it is safe.

Rainbow12e · 15/05/2020 19:41

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psychomath · 15/05/2020 19:46

Does anyone know who actually has the authority to decide which schools are opening in this situation? If central government says they have to open, can the LA overrule them? Likewise, if individual heads want their schools to re-open (or in other regions, to stay closed) can they tell the LA to do one and make their own decision?

Itisasecret · 15/05/2020 20:02

Heads have the final say. The issue you have, is the government advice is literally impossible. Most schools do not have the staff or space, so they prioritise key worker and vulnerable children then take what they can. If they can’t do it, then they can’t open. By opening and not following guidance, if there is an outbreak, they are in all sorts of trouble.

ChangedMyName4This1 · 15/05/2020 20:09

Public Sector workers cannot be furloughed but if they cannot wfh and cannot attend work for childcare reasons they can stay at home on full pay. It's in the published guidelines.....
@sexbearhouse please could you link to that for me.

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LilyPond2 · 15/05/2020 20:47

covid.joinzoe.com/data

Data from the JoinZoe app suggests infection rates may currently be rising in Liverpool, so I think the authorities there are right to be very wary of opening schools to more pupils.

Coffeeandbeans · 15/05/2020 20:58

Public sector staff can and have been furloughed. Colchester BC has for example.

psychomath · 15/05/2020 23:31

Thanks Itisasecret! I've been in education my whole working life but obviously this situation is a new one for me Smile

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