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'Significant numbers of children become seriously ill with Covid-19'

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0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 14/05/2020 01:47

childrensnational.org/news-and-events/childrens-newsroom/2020/significant-number-of-children-become-seriously-ill-with-covid-19

Those who like to use the word mongering when posters talk about poor outcomes, look away now.

We don't know enough to send children back to school. About the virus. About the scope of our government's scientific advice. About our competency to meet the tests for leaving lockdown. They seem to have become conditional but they needed to be non-negotiable.

We're not Finland. We're utterly crap compared to Finland. So let's not pretend we'll have Finland's outcomes just because Finland is clever. (And roomy).

For those who think it's vanishingly unlikely to be your child. Fair enough. But it will be someone's child. So let's get our ducks in a row and hold the government accountable to deliver a competent, proven test and trace system with a low enough transmission rate to ensure it will work.

This is not flu. Flu doesn't create this kind of death toll. We don't even know what it is yet but the urban myths about children being invincible and harmless if infected need to stop. If this goes wrong and we have a vaccine in the the time frame put forward by some researchers, we'll point the finger at the government for not making us wait. Let think twice about what we do instead. The government are responding partly to pressure from the electorate. So let's pressurise them to be competent.

This isn't the blitz... It's potentially so much worse. Our current advisors are saying the only good thing about COVID-19 is the way it passed over children. That isn't the case and it isn't something to rely on.

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Barbie222 · 14/05/2020 22:24

If the government are so confident that the science backs up the decision they have made then why have they not published the SAGE report.

I agree. I think the truth is there isn't one to look at, according to the DfE scientist.

I don't usually have much time for Laura Kuenssberg but her article on the "inner circle" making decisions within Cabinet without reference to the key ministers involved is interesting.

WyfOfBathe · 14/05/2020 22:26

Even a small risk is too big a risk when it comes to my children

Only a risk of Covid, or of all causes of death and serious illness/injury?

There's a small risk they'll get hit by a car, fall off the climbing frame, choke on their dinner, get meningitis, and countless other things. Everyone encounters risk every day. What makes coronavirus risk different?

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 14/05/2020 22:44

@WyfOfBathe

Yes risk is everywhere, as a result we assess and put in place mitigation.

My 5yr old only leaves the house with an adult, who holds her hand and helps her to cross the road safely. She sits in a suitable car seat that fits her and is adequately safety checked and assured when driving. She is vaccinated to U.K government standards to protect against harmful childhood illnesses. She wears a helmet when riding a bike or scooter. I ensure she eats a balanced, healthy diet.

What risk mitigation steps should be put in place to prevent her getting a serious illness as a result of a pandemic that we have so far been unable to control via vaccine or treatment?

I have seen the DfE guidance and the plans drawn up by a number of schools and it sounds like a really unpleasant school experience and one that for the sake of a few weeks education does not justify the risk.

This is not my daughter school but is a primary school who have published their preventative measures to parents, and it sounds like a miserable way for a 5 year old to spend the day. My DD is happy, healthy, enjoying time with us and doing schoolwork. I will only change that if the benefits outweigh the risks.

www.cambois.northumberland.sch.uk/website

WyfOfBathe · 14/05/2020 23:12

What risk mitigation steps should be put in place to prevent her getting a serious illness as a result of a pandemic that we have so far been unable to control via vaccine or treatment?

I agree with this point. The risk may currently be too high in some people's risk judgements (and fine for others - some people go skydiving for fun, I think the risk is far too high!)

But I've seen so many posters say "any risk is too big" or they're waiting for places to be "completely safe". Which is unrealistic, and will still be unrealistic even if there's a vaccine. At some point, people will have to accept the risk of catching covid-19 like they accept the risk of catching measles or meningitis. That point will come at different times for different people.

Oysterbabe · 15/05/2020 08:53

A friend of mine posted on FB yesterday that his child will not go back to school until vaccinated or every single person at the school has been tested and found to have immunity.
Welcome to permanent homeschooling my friend.

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