Is there a London bias involved in government decisions?

[CurlyhairedAssassin]

Just looking at the graphs of current hospital cases. It was quite startling looking at London’s curve downwards and comparing it to all the other regions which are barely heading downwards. I’m in the NW and from what I’m hearing from friends and family there’s plenty of severe cases here. People who have lost relatives in the past few days. I don’t think we are the same as London, our graph is not going down quick enough.

Makes me wonder if decisions are made based on what ministers are experiencing in London ignoring what’s going on in the other regions

Personally I think the herd immunity strategy is v risky. And it is not v clear exactly what UK gov want to achieve. Are they resigned to most of the population getting it? Or are they going to try and contain it (but doing so v I effectively)?

Consider having road blocks to block off areas so that spread can be contained to an area. You could have travel passes for those who require travel outside (eg medical treatment at bigger hospital or care for frail relatives).

Road blocks in a Western democracy? Blimey. People have short memories of how that's perceived. I'm sure the people of NI could educate the English on this.

Yes definitely. Bias against Londoners.
Just as they've borne the brunt of the first wave so they will the second.

You can't have missed the photos of all those poor people crowded onto London underground trains?

As we all know, those with the power and money in London generally don't live there full-time. MPs included. We all saw how they retreated to their homes elsewhere over the past couple of months.

It was, of course, in London where hospitals were too overwhelmed to accept patients until their lips turned blue (a stage when survival is less likely).

Oh and then there's the fact that London was never protected in the first place. We have a situation where the government tells people to Keep Out of rural beauty spots. Whilst allowing hundreds of thousands (figures confirmed by Matt Hancock) arriving daily at airports, mostly Heathrow. No checks or quarantine.

So yes OP. The government seems to have it in for Londoners. Potentially indirect racism involved in this?

Consider having road blocks to block off areas so that spread can be contained to an area. You could have travel passes for those who require travel outside (eg medical treatment at bigger hospital or care for frail relatives).
Oh no. If that happens, it needs to work both ways. No having your cake and eating it.

More people in London= more votes.
Not for the Conservatives. Not in London.
You might be right about votes though.
Rural Tory areas have been given protection major cities (that generally vote Labour) haven't.

Some Borders have been shut in EU - who are usually v pro- free movement etc.

In France they had police checking documents when people went out. I would think roadblocks on different geographical sectors for the reasons of containing infection is less intrusive than police checking documents whenever you go out. Within the sector, people could start having more freedom, opening the economy etc. And as the infection rate goes down, more sectors could open and merge.

I guess different people have different threshold of death rate they would accept, just like some people in US insist on freedom to bear arms.

I'm in the NE myself and most immediate family aside from those in the older gen/vulnerable cat have all worked from the start due to various job roles. Tbh it makes not much difference to me personally if Londerners resume work or not from most aspects (it bothers me from a transport view as they are less likely to drive, or have to use buses/tubes). However I think the protocol in staying at home if you're retired, vulnerable, or financially able to remains the same? I'll be honest and state I personally don't 'feel the fear', as I've worked as usual (front facing/lots of multiple interactions) from the start. I think the longer it progresses the more fear will multiply for those where the risks are genuinely minimal/limited tbh. At the point we're at now I personally know a lot of folk who've tested positive and are now back at work. That isn't a reassurance for those who are vulnerable/older, as they've all been younger 50-yrs, but I'm just commenting on what I know from first hand.

Toffee “ It was, of course, in London where hospitals were too overwhelmed to accept patients until their lips turned blue (a stage when survival is less likely).”

I only heard the blue lips thing on MN
But there’s lots of capacity in London hospitals now and I think has been since end of March.

I’ve been listening to a US doctor who describes similar problems. People too scared to be seen unless they’re really desperately ill, healthcare providers saying “isolate” via telephone appointments and offering no meds. The doc speaking seems to think that hydroxwotsit is very useful and couldn’t understand why America doesn’t want to advise it when it has worked in other countries. She is seeing patients face to face and says they present very late.

I'll also add from my workplace we've now got the social distancing on pat as pretty much second nature. If I go to the supermarket it's not so much! They say learnt behaviour takes X amount of time to evolve subconsciously. If they did a filtered resume to the workplace/school system, it'd probably help vs a pile back in.