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Do babies count?

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hammeringinmyhead · 12/05/2020 15:02

For the purposes of meeting one person at a distance, would you say that a woman with a baby in a pram can meet another adult?

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SquirtleSquad · 12/05/2020 18:44

The only person nit picking is you Hmm

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hammeringinmyhead · 12/05/2020 18:52

The reason I am pressing the point is that I don't want someone more frightened of the virus than I am to google this question and come across your side-on risk nonsense. I see it's not just me questioning it though so I shan't worry too much!

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Floatyboat · 12/05/2020 21:43

Are you wanting people to think it's not safer to stand side on? Of course it is. The government guidelines acknowledge this. Whether you wish to adhere to that is up to you. You might think it's worth the risk of standing face on.

RoosterPie · 12/05/2020 21:45

You don’t stand face on when pushing a pram, what are you talking about?

Floatyboat · 12/05/2020 21:49

@rooster

if you are side on to the other adult you won't be side on to the other pram. Some people are not worried about that, which is up to them.

mynameiscalypso · 12/05/2020 21:50

We have taken the executive decision that DS doesn't count as a person in his own right. I personally think he's 'safer' (or rather other people are safer from him) in a pram than a carrier. I'm the former, he's normally wearing more clothes and has the hood up. If he were to cough, he'd be coughing at me and nothing would escape out the sides. In the carrier, he's looking around, flailing his arms, touching anything he can. How is that less risky?

RoosterPie · 12/05/2020 21:56

@Floatyboat I honestly don’t understand. I walk forwards, face forwards and my daughter in the pram faces forwards.

The person walking next to me also faces and walks forwards.

I cannot see what difference a pram makes to the fact that we walk in the same direction next to each other and face in the same direction, ie not at each other unless we turn our face to the other person which can happen with or without a pram.

Floatyboat · 12/05/2020 21:58

For the reasons outlined above. But there are arguments either way depending on specifics. I was imagining an inward facing sling.

Covid is droplet transmission, falling from people's mouths in a parabola towards the ground. It would be reasonable to assume that if you're lower to the ground droplets with a source further away will reach you.

mynameiscalypso · 12/05/2020 22:02

I think there's a massive difference between a newborn in an inward facing sling and an energetic baby in a forward facing carrier.

mynameiscalypso · 12/05/2020 22:08

I also think your view very much depends on whether you're looking at it more from the standpoint of protecting your baby or protecting others from your baby! I'm in the latter camp although I have no reason to think DS has the virus!

RoosterPie · 12/05/2020 22:08

Can’t see the reasons you’ve given, unless you mean that three people make a triangle, which doesn’t mean you aren’t side on.

My husband and I take our daughter out in the pram all the time and we remain side on. If we didn’t, we would walk into each other! We walk parallel, pram or no pram.

I’m clearly missing something.

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hammeringinmyhead · 12/05/2020 22:11

Are you wanting people to think it's not safer to stand side on? Of course it is.

No! Bloody hell. I am saying the other person will not be wandering along backwards facing me and the buggy! And that someone walking alongside me will be side on. To both of us.

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hammeringinmyhead · 12/05/2020 22:15

You're not missing anything. There are just some posters who are inventing problems when it comes to doing anything. At all.

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Floatyboat · 12/05/2020 22:38

Sorry was just trying to give advice on how to be safer. Ignore it if you wish.

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hammeringinmyhead · 12/05/2020 23:17

You said: If you think the risk of a buggy is ok then you don't need to ask for advice on here. And you also said that not using a sling is putting a baby at risk.

There is no more risk with a buggy than with a sling, because a person can walk alongside a buggy. Please don't try and scare mums of babies into not going out. It is hard enough.

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ItsNoFromMe · 12/05/2020 23:21

Ffs just use your common sense.

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hammeringinmyhead · 12/05/2020 23:30

So... does common sense in your opinion mean of course you can't, that's 3 people? Or of course, you can, as babies aren't mobile and don't add to any risk? When we're talking about a government who says I can meet my mum in the morning and my dad in the afternoon, despite them living together, I don't really think "common sense" comes into it.

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Floatyboat · 13/05/2020 08:18

@hammeringinmyhead

There is no more risk with a buggy than with a sling

It is incredibly unlikely that the risks would be exactly equal, all sorts of things modify risk. I have explained in some detail why I think a sling would be generally safer than a buggy. If you disagree or think that difference in risk isn't enough to worry about for you personally then fine.

Drivingdownthe101 · 13/05/2020 09:23

In my risk assessment, my baby would be less at risk in a forward facing pushchair than in the sling, as he will be further away from the person I am standing next to.

Floatyboat · 13/05/2020 11:05

Fair enough.

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