Our children can't hug grandparents, but they can go back to school?

[Emcont]

Another thread, I know, I'm sorry.

I have a child in Reception and a child in Year 1.

Am I gonna face a fine if I don't send them? Probably!

The two years who are probably going to be the worst at social distancing!

Anyone else not feel comfortable sending them back so soon?

Why are you so desperate for people to hug old people? Are you trying to kill them? Kids hugging kids is safer than hugging old people - not exactly complicated is it.

Where exactly did OP say the grandparents were old? People are making a lot of assumptions here.

Why are you so desperate for people to hug old people?

Why do people just presume that grandparents are old people. You can easily be a grandparent in your 40s and 50s. Or did the definition of old people change?

Dare I say it, the demographic on here skews more affluent than average and the concept of a couple of generations of a family both having had kids in perhaps their early 20s doesn't compute with some MNers.

@BlackberryCane ONS data says the average age of becoming a grandparent was 63 in 2017

The average age of a British grandparent is not 40's. You're being facetious. The point stands regardless.

This isn't for another 3 weeks and that is only if the R number is okay and we don't have a second peak etc.
Why are you scaremongering @Emcont ?

I think the main thing to remember is MOST grandparents will be of the older generation. Either way they might be younger but they may have some of the underlying health issues that puts you at higher risk. They may have asthma, or maybe something that they haven’t discovered yet. They’ve also said your risk increases quite a bit from around age 50, to me that is classed as young.

The aim is to not hug ANYONE for a long time nor just grandparents so I really don’t get why there’s any talk of anything reopening at the moment whilst we’re not even actually at stage 3 yet! Why not wait till we’re well into stage 2 (which I know they haven’t actually said what that is yet but I’m guessing as 1 is no lore covid in the U.K. then stage 2 will be the next best thing)

I know people have to get back to work etc and the economy needs to get going again blah blah but what happens when we have a second peak in summer when they start to open up the hospitality sector just at the right time for people to flock!!!
Arghhhhh....I don’t think there should be any mixing between households unless we have reliable tests to guarantee at that moment in time you don’t have the virus.

Oh and I have a two year old who desperately misses his grandparents and vise versa and I miss my parents terribly but I think it’s too early to be doing anything 😣

Why do people just presume that grandparents are old people. You can easily be a grandparent in your 40s and 50s. Or did the definition of old people change

How many grandparents of school age kids are under 45? Not that many.

The risk increases greatly with age, and goes up significantly from age 45 onwards. Under that age there have been very few deaths, and the vast majority of those have been healthcare workers with high viral load or those with significant underlying conditions - of course, these deaths are still absolutely unacceptable, it's just that the average 40 year old in decent nick and not working in a covid ward has extremely low risk of death.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/latest#deaths-registered-by-age-group

Personally I'd be waiting for the results of the New York investigation into the children that seem to have contracted a form of the covid virus.

Do some of you think we can just stay in forever ? What if there is no vaccine
It's not even a decimate it's 3 weeks away and if number spike it won't happen

Also I think a lot are forgetting that schools are open and children have been going in for those key workers who have had no choice but to send their kids to school
And yes you still have a choice as you can always de register and home school

How many grandparents of school age kids are under 45? Not that many.

Obviously the amount is smaller but I was questioning more the implication from some posters that hugging a grandparent means that the child is hugging an old person. Yes grandparents are older but that doesnt mean they are old. I cannot imagine any 50 year old for example being content to be described as old.

Between the children, social distancing isn't needed, they don't shed the virus Proof?

And fairly obviously if your child has it and hugs granny, they could literally kill granny But poor Mrs OldLady the TA has just got to suck it up?

@TinySleepThief I don't think people were saying that 50 is necessarily so old (though it's also not exactly young, and is certainly the upper end of middle aged), but that older people are at risk, so we should minimise contact with them.

But poor Mrs OldLady the TA has just got to suck it up?

All school staff need to discuss their situation with their employers and if they are at high risk they need to have that taken into account

OP said nothing to suggest her children's grandparents were of average GP age though dollyparton. There is no getting round the fact that people are berating her because they've made assumptions.

This means that in fact floatyboat, your point does not stand. You are berating OP specifically, not the general population but one person and one cohort of grandparents, based on a gap you filled in, and about something you could very feasibly be wrong about. That's not facetious, it's inconvenient to you. Check before you fulminate.

The average age of grandparents in my region is 40's. I became a grandmother at 48.

The middle class families that i know become GPs in their 50's. But for a middle class family, 50's/60's/70's will be a lot healthier than the deprived area counterparts. There also tends to be less obese.

"Because granny is at risk from the virus in a way that the rest of a reception class isn’t"

And "granny" is a dinner lady at school....hmmm

@BlackberryCane

What I was saying people hugging old people is risky and might kill them. Obviously old is relative. But most people consider being a grandparent a marker of being in the second half of life. The half that covid kills.

How is granny at risk if chikdren dont shed the virus?

The average lifespan in the UK is early to mid 80s, so halfway to that is perhaps 43 or so at the oldest. If most people consider merely being over 43 as a remotely useful marker for covid risks, when that could cover a 44 year old with no underlying conditions, and I'm not sure they do, then they need to work a bit on their risk perception.

@Nousernameforme How am I scaremongering?

I should have stated age I suppose.

'Granny' = My mother. Who is mid 40's with no health problems. I'm 26. As many said, not all grandparents are OAP's..

Of course that's different to my partners father who is 70's with many complications, who we are obviously staying away from until safe to see again.

Children shouldn't hug dinner ladies.