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Original poster

So they expect us to never see family?

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SpongeCake23 · 11/05/2020 07:44

Unless I missed it, I heard no mention of seeing family in the future plans.
Opening schoolswaa outlined, even possibly opening hospitality services further down the line came up, but nothing at all about seeing people. What does that mean? We’ll never be able to?

OP posts:

Doidontimmm · 11/05/2020 09:32

@R2519 sorry but it’s not close to isolating, it’s really not, see secret squirrels post, it’s hugely different, her neighbour in your eyes was almost isolating and sadly died, if she had truly isolated (not saying she should have - she was doing the same as most of us) she wouldn’t have.

Footywife · 11/05/2020 09:33

@Elephantonascooter Come on....they're children and toddlers, not 24 stone men.....it really doesn't take much to stop them hugging someone.

MrsTravers · 11/05/2020 09:50

@StrawberryJam200 I was surprised to hear people speaking so definitively about schools going back. Leaving aside the fact that I am sure the unions will have some fairly strong conditions they wish satisfied, I thought it was very clear that they would only go back if certain conditions were fulfilled. I had presumed that the whole point of putting it in these terms was so that people wouldn't start trying to bend the rules, but clearly not!

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 11/05/2020 09:56

VanGoghsDog your sneering is lovely. Im fed up, I’m over this, I don’t think it’s worth it anymore- people would think no one ever died of anything before Corona!

Ponoka7 · 11/05/2020 10:06

"people would think no one ever died of anything before Corona!"

Ten million children under 15 in the UK and two have died from Covid. 20 die from chicken pox. Sepis, pneumonia, bronchialitis, hobby accidents etc kill way more.

VanGoghsDog · 12/05/2020 00:38

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I wasn't sneering, I was stating a fact.

VanGoghsDog · 12/05/2020 00:39

two have died from Covid.

Because we closed the schools and implemented social distancing.

Are you one of those people who says "look, all that fuss about the millennium bug and nothing happened" ignoring all the work out in to prevent anything happening?

LadyB49 · 12/05/2020 00:46

I heard it clarified on news tonight that if you met family outdoors it had to be one to one and at social distancing

Inkpaperstars · 12/05/2020 03:50

It has been confirmed in the published guidance and at the briefing last night that any meeting that involves people from different households has to be one on one, a pair ie one from each household.

Cornishclio · 12/05/2020 04:54

*@HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime
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healthy family are providing childcare (which they have always been able to do).

Healthy family are not allowed to provide childcare and haven't been since the lockdown started. For some reason nannies and now childminders are allowed to work but my daughter cannot ask me or her MIL to look after her pre school DC while she and her husband WFH even though we are both healthy and willing and not even going into supermarkets.

sansgender · 12/05/2020 07:33

My MIL now wants OH to go round and do stuff for her in the house - there's no chance she'll be social distancing either (she doesn't live on her own so it's not like she's been lonely the whole time). She thinks the whole thing is a conspiracy and will start carrying on if her own son won't give her a hug. I really don't want him going over there but what can I do?

Iamthe1andonlyyyyy · 12/05/2020 08:21

My mum is disabled, has COPD and lives in a hospital bed in her living room. Dad is in his 70s and in ok health.
We live 5 mins walk apart.
I don't know how long it will be until I can see her 😔

HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 12/05/2020 11:36

@Cornishclio yes they have if the parents are working outside the home as long as they are local, under the provide care for a child part of the original document. It is obviously a lot lower risk for my Dd to go to my parents house when I have to work in school than to mix with other children and staff at her school.

rbe78 · 12/05/2020 11:55

Raab gave incorrect advice (surprise surprise) - it has now been clarified that you can only meet one member of another household at a time (at two metres distance).
www.staffordshire-live.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/government-corrects-advice-given-raab-4122129

sandragreen · 12/05/2020 12:02

Let's just put our kids in zorbs

OMG! I want a zorb!!! That is a fabulous idea!

Sansgender Tell him if he goes to MILS he will have to stay there.

IsabelleSE19 · 12/05/2020 12:51

I think the OP's point was that it was disappointing that there was no mention of when we can visit family ( the new guidelines don't help us as we live too far away) - whether it is part of the June or July measures or what conditions have to be met before we can mix households.

I accept we can't do it yet but would like to know where it fits into future plans.

mintandcoral · 12/05/2020 14:19

@MrsTravers this seems to have completely gone over so many peoples heads! It is irritating me so much. I work in a secondary and they are talking about us going back before the summer when it was said quite clearly in the briefing that exam classes (Y10 and Y12) will maybe/hopefully have some face to face time with their teachers before the summer holidays. Yet some people are banging on like we're all going to be back in on the 1st of June!?

MrsTravers · 12/05/2020 14:30

@mintandcoral I presumed the reason they had announced it was purely that they would have to give the schools at least 3 weeks' notice to prepare in case they can go back and that it would have leaked (impossible not to with the number of people who would have to be involved). I only have one child who is in the year groups in question (preschool) and he is the only one I can see being able to go back - my others would love to (two are at primary) but I have said it is unlikely before September to all of them. There are just too many variables to fulfil between now and then and I though the speech was very clear on Sunday that this was by no means certain. And I can see infections rising again given how keen people are to justify being out and about again. Don't get me wrong, I would love mine to go back and will send them as soon as I can, but it's still very, very theoretical at this stage and so much can change in this country before we even start to look at experience abroad.

Valkadin · 12/05/2020 14:34

I live hundreds of miles from family and the rest live overseas, same with DH. It’s only been for a couple of months, if someone is a single parent or living alone I can see why they may be feeling a bit desperate but if not surely it’s not that bad.

Nighttimefreedom · 12/05/2020 14:39

@VanGoghsDog

two have died from Covid

Because we closed the schools and implemented social distancing.

And 2 children have been murdered in their homes since schools were closed and we implemented social distancing.
School closures do not benefit children. They are to protect the rest of us, but I wish people would stop insisting this is to protect children.

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