People don't understand

[Disneylover4321]

What people still meeting in gatherings don't understand is that if they get really ill with CV is that they would be prioritised if there are not enough ventilators as they are "fit and healthy" compared to my friends DD with terminal cancer who has put in a lot of effort shielding from before lockdown started, and has been told that she wouldn't be prioritised for a ventilator!!!!

People need to stop gathering unless absolutely necessary.

Also, Sorry if this thread offends anyone.

I think they understand perfectly

@attackedbycritters

Well then why are people still gathering?

They understand but they dont think it will happen to them/their family. Tis human nature, we're all the stars of our own movie.

@porcupineinwaiting

I understand that but it's not fair on people who have been shielding.

They don’t care. That’s the problem. They’re ok and that’s all that matters.

Your relative is part of that collateral damage.

I’m so sorry for your family OP.

Oh and of course they’re special

Sadly - Because they are either
a) so full of their own sense of “my rights”
B) too stupid to understand.
C) just don’t care.
D) think it’s “just flu”
E) a combination of all of the above.

I understand that people have to gradually go back to work, where possible and where safe. What I don’t get is the self centred way people think a picnic in the park with another family or visiting relatives is a good idea.

Totally with you OP.

I'm sure after the 9million other outraged threads about this people understand perfectly well your hyperbolic imaginary scenario.

Unfortunately you're not prime minster and you're not every other person on the planet - so you are going to have to deal with it and sit in your room twitching your curtains about hypothetical ventilators.

Or... get a life.

@ThanosSavedMe

Shes my friends DD.

Exactly they know that if they end up hospital with it, they will be prioritised for a ventilator against some body who has lost months of their life to shielding!!

@DominaShantotto

It's not an imaginary scenario, thank you!!!!!!!

That's not how ventilator priority would work.

Assuming there was a shortage (currently there isnt) then priority is given to the person with the best chance of getting off the ventilator. If your friend's daughter is reasonable young and reasonably well despite her diagnosis, and her diagnosis wasn't something that would contraindicate extreme measures, then of course she wouldn't just be tossed to the side.

Being ventilated isn't a magic cure though, at that point it is 50/50. We still don't have an effective treatment for this so it essentially just buys time for your body to fight.

Selfish

I think people understand but also realise this can't go on indefinitely.

We need people to work, to provide services. We can only pause these things briefly.

If we all stay in until there is a vaccine to protect your friend's DD, we will be causing other deaths. People who need housing. People who need medical treatment. People who need a life outside their home to prevent them feeling suicidal.

Lives are balanced on a knife edge all over the shop OP. It's an awful situation.

So sorry for you op and others in a similar situation. I agree with @Porcupineinwaiting some people are just so selfish they dont care about anyone else but themselves. I have a family member like this and she isn’t bothered what any body thinks I am over reacting. She will quite happily go over to my elderly mothers garden with her two DC (one teen) who has little or comprehension about personal space at the best of times and her other DD aged 9.

Disney lover....you seem to have come along a bit late in the game. There are numerous threads about this sort of thing, and numerous fb moans. Of course people understand.

If you are at the point where you need ventilation then you are clearly not fit and healthy. Only half of people that are ventilated survive.

@picklemewalnuts

I'm not talking about people going to work.

@Tiramisuiloveyou

Thank you.

Apologies I meant your friends family. Some posts here sum up my other point perfectly well.

@picklemewalnuts I completely agree with you.

I understand the concerns but the majority of people are NOT meeting in gatherings. You just hear about the ones that are.

@cadburyegg
I agree that it is not the majority of people.