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How are schools currently dealing with outbreaks?

41 replies

headachehair · 08/05/2020 19:54

If you work in a school / hub taking key worker children or are sending your children to one, how many cases of covid are you seeing? Particularly as social distancing will be so difficult.

And when there is a suspected or possible case, what happens? Closing the school? Sending everyone home to isolate? Mass testing (if recent)?

Would be interested as it will indicate on a much smaller scale the risks of schools reopening and also set the tone for how outbreaks will be dealt with when schools fully reopen.

OP posts:
Barbie222 · 08/05/2020 22:03

One thing we do is limit the adult contact so only one staff member (SLT) receives and hands over children. I haven't had contact with the children's parents, just passed on messages.

stuckindoors77 · 08/05/2020 22:09

We can't social distance within a class I don't think, but it would be possible to isolate each class and limit teacher interactions so that if there was a case in one class only their class would need to be shut down.

serialtester · 08/05/2020 22:31

OP, you're being terribly faux naive. Having limited pupils and staff in in a very controlled environment is entirely different to having a whole school open. The social distancing measures you are being told about here are precisely the reason why there are no outbreaks being reported.

Keepdistance · 08/05/2020 22:31

On the doc linked on other thread 2 outbreaks in schools in that week. But gave no detail as to whst outbreak meant in terms of who -staff or child and whether they then gave it to everyone there.

The case at our school was i think a dr/nurse etc.
I guess it depends as some schools wont have any dr/nurses etc as small schools.
In dd year (60 kids) there is
Someone who works in gp
Someone in hospital.
Someone linked to care home
A nurse i think
And teacher at a secondary school.

We are in low affected area but close to a city.

Would be interesting to see the data gov see. I mean who are the key workers making up 50% of new infections? Teachers/care workers/dr/nurses?

I think it's worse that so many are key workers as if it were say an average person catching it at supermarket and only being at home then that person is only spreading to their family.
Obviously if 2k are say supermarket or delivery people or nurses on non cv patients so without proper ppe.
Focusing on stopping the key workers getting infected is key. Whether thats masks for whole population/better masks for staff working with unconfirmed CV.

Keepdistance · 08/05/2020 22:35

Also until all hcp have had it or we can stop them getting it everyone is going to be avoiding hospitals. How many shielded are going to be able to avoid medical care until theres a vax?

Drivingdownthe101 · 08/05/2020 22:35

We have 2 intensive care Dr’s and a couple of frontline nurses, alongside social workers and district nurses etc as key workers and haven’t had any confirmed cases amongst keyworker children so far.

headachehair · 08/05/2020 22:42

@serialtester not at all. Genuinely interested in the only school based environment there is currently. Lots of people keep saying the children aren't socially distancing. It's still the same issue whether it's 10 or 30, just on a lesser scale. It's interesting and promising that there aren't many cases reported. If that makes me naive then 🤷🏽‍♀️

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Upsidedownfrown · 08/05/2020 22:44

We have about 70 children in most days and have had 3 confirmed (siblings). All that happened was a bit of extra cleaning but no closure or anything

Upsidedownfrown · 08/05/2020 22:50

Should've said - above was about 4 weeks ago and no sick staff or children since

SpokeTooSoon · 08/05/2020 22:58

There have been no cases linked to children so far. No evidence that children are/were spreading it.

BlessYourCottonSocks · 08/05/2020 23:58

Agree that this is faux naive and the wide eyed implications that golly gosh this looks hopeful for getting schools back are just a bit too much.

If you're interested, three of our secondary aged kids have a Mum that works in a shop. Mum is able to social distance, provided with mask and gloves according to kids and one customer in at a time. The other one has a Mum who is a midwife. Not dealing with Covid patients, again got PPE. 4 kids sitting in different parts of a school library.

Send back 1000 kids and it will bear no resemblance to the current situation. Utterly pointless to attempt to suggest it's the same issue on a smaller scale for Christ's sake.

Starrynightsabove · 09/05/2020 00:12

I’m sending my daughter to school. About 40 In the school and no issues

Starrynightsabove · 09/05/2020 00:13

And my child is reception and absolutely no social distancing going on

stuckindoors77 · 09/05/2020 00:44

I'd be interested to see some solid stats on the hubs and spread of the virus within them.
I'd also like to see them gradually increase hub numbers until they're double what they are now and gather data again.

Before they think about re-opening schools. Don't think they will though 🤷‍♂️

EachDubh · 09/05/2020 00:55

No cases doesn't autonatically mean hurrah kids can't spread, it more likely, at present means hurrah, parents haven't cought it.

Keepdistance · 09/05/2020 00:57

Apparently icu are less likely to catch as they have the ppe.
Thing is even with low numbers of kids in class i dont think it sounds like they test everyone else who is in contact with a case or are asking them to isolate. If 20% are asymptomatic theres a 1/5 chance someone did catch it and then spread it.

Pretty much goes to show they have no intention of tracting tracing and testing and are just going to send evetyone back for another wave.
Or they are just being half arsed still.

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