Concerned about society if we don't all get back fo school and work

[onedayinthefuture]

I only work part time so am used to being out and about during the week when the local area is a lot quieter. However, at the moment, the river walks and parks are a lot busier with people quite rightly exercising. The problem is, I am seeing more and more antisocial behaviour caused by people who would normally be in school or work. In fact, I would say it's about 95% adults who are the issue. Groups of young men in their twenties meeting up who might ordinarily be at work or in the pub. They are in the parks peeing in bushes, drinking and generally being loutish. I've seen quite a few older people too, just sat on benches drinking and smoking (they don't clear up after themselves). I've even witnessed a man taking a dump next to a kids play area. Car thefts seem to be going up in my area and there seems to be helicopters circling most evenings. It's this very quick downfall in society that I am witnessing right now that is really unnerving me. People NEED to be at work and pubs do serve a purpose in keeping drinkers off the streets, I am genuinely very concerned that the longer this lockdown goes on that this country is going to become far more dangerous to crime and antisocial behaviour. Is anyone else genuinely frightened that this lockdown is going to cause far more serious issues for society than the virus ever could? Why aren't the media reporting on this?

I think your fears are valid, you've obviously seen stuff that bears them out. But I definitely feel things will 'normalise' and rebalance again over time, as restrictions are lifted and people feel able to socialise in more conventional ways again. In the meantime, I pray as few people as possible will be hurt in all the unrest.

Why would people who usually meet in a pub pee in bushes rather than secretly gathering in a house?

The things you describe are happening where I live but the sane amount as usual.

There are frequent spayed of car break ins every now and then. The one this week seems normal... crime dipped for a while so it’s like they’re just back to work as normal.

Why would people who usually meet in a pub pee in bushes rather than secretly gathering in a house?

For all sorts of reasons. The group of men in their twenties could all still live at home for a start so couldn't invite their mates back. The lone drunks on the benches could have unhappy home lives. Yes you might see the odd bit of antisocial behaviour in normal times but I am now seeing it daily and its intimidating when you have young kids in places where I used to feel safe.

I live in whats considered a rather 'rough area.

Tbh, we have had less. Theres a row of 4 terraces who were given asbos (or whatever they are called now) 2 years ago. Their kids cause chaos. Out til midnight in spring/ summer. They have all been kept in. Though it has stopped since the asbo.

There's one man who who see pushing his dog to the shop in a pram who buys a load of beer then goes home. He does that all the time. The only addition public drinker, is the friend of a husband who was outside the shop with a mate he doesnt live with. He saw me and bragged about how he is pissed all the time.

Me and my best friend are trying to get in touch with his wife. We are getting concerned about her and the kids.

But he is always a dick. One of those people everybody knows and knows he is usually somewhere getting drunk. On a Sunday in the rugby club after the kids games he is the last to leave and drunk while his wife walks home with the 3 kids.

But generally its quieter here. The dog walks are quite. There's less litter and certainly no kids being antisocial.

So, I appreciate it must be awful for you. Some places are better and its not happening. I do think society will suffer for a long time. But not in this way.

The vast majority of the country are complying and I am guessing the vast majority are not acting in ways you describe.

Yeh I forgot to say I was just hearing what you were saying, OP. Personally I've noticed things are much quieter where I am, on the whole. Instead of constant traffic and flights overhead I hear much more birdsong and children playing, which makes me feel cosy! I've noticed a bit of tension when out shopping, but not much. Like the PP said, things generally are less aggro. Even where you live, which sounds distressing, I still think things will likely settle down when lockdown is lifted

I thought the reports were that crime is down and domestic abuse up?

The lockdowns being treated like an extended holiday by some but it’s temporary measure for long term gain