Oestrogen may play a protective role in fighting COVID?

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Just had an update email from the covid.joinzoe.com/ symptom tracker and saw this:

"Tomorrow we will add some new questions. We have been asked by NHS England if we can help them to understand why men are more at risk from COVID than women. We have therefore teamed up with NHS researchers Dr. Louise Newson and Professor Janice Rymer, who think that oestrogen may play a protective role in fighting COVID. To understand this better, we have added a few new questions in the app that we can then link to the unique symptoms that 3 million of you have been experiencing. These questions look at things like contraception and Hormone Replacement Therapies (HRT) that impact hormone levels."

Interesting.... (although obviously too early for any definitive answers)

Bet they forget to include lactational amenorrhea.

If I am perinenopausal age, late forties, but still having regular periods, are my oestrogen levels still normal? Hope so! (no hormonal contraception)

I've heard that Oestragen could play a part too, which leaves me still wondering why it's more male dominated, as a lot of women 50+ are not on HRT.. (including me )

There's been loads of studies already TW the y gene and linked to how men's bodies deal with inflammation compared to women's (and why women get more autoimmune issues).

Maybe they're establishing if pre and post menopause has an impact?

"There's been loads of studies already on the y gene..."

Now there was a Freudian slip!

In France they are giving Male Patients oestrogen patches to see if it helps as one of the things they are trialling. Another country, not sure which one, is doing nicotine patches.

Because oestrogen is the only thing that differentiates between men and women

There are definite differences in terms of covid risk depending on your sex. I would like them to look more widely than a single hormone. Especially in post menopausal women.

I thought the thinking was the chromosome difference and not hormone. I guess if they are looking at ways to help men, it's easier to give a hormone than a chromosome!

Had a full hysterectomy at 40 and don't take hrt so that's worrying if true

I too thought it was Chromosome led tilder, rather then hormonal.

as they were talking about elderly women compared to elderly men this doesn't make much sense -I would love someone to explain how this works. & the nicotine patches are being trialled in France too
I get the definite impression that some of these trials are clutching at straws - although I hope that one of them might work out

As I thought, no mention of post partum amenorrhea.

I somehow doubt it's estrogen as the majority of deaths are in the age ranges well past menopause and at that point there's little difference between men and women re estrogen.

I've been plagued by medical conditions linked to high oestrogen my whole adult life - it would be nice to get some benefit from it, for a change!

Suddenly the medical establishment are interested in testing medicines and treatments on female bodies and hormones ... when it benefits men.

Well, colour me shocked.

I’d read something the other day which suggested rubella immunity may also be a factor. More older females are probably immune to rubella than males. Before MMR was rolled out, only girls got the rubella vaccine. At least that was the case when I was at school , and that was only the late 80s so not a million years ago, albeit not yesterday either

That's me fucked then (no ovaries).

I don't think it's the main factor at all. It's a weird thing to be analysing tbh.

I believe I've actually had rubella as a child.