Has anyone contracted CV since lockdown, observing all rules, and not know where you got it?

[KenDodd]

Or well, two weeks after lockdown started to allow for incubation period. If you have, is it a confirmed case? And how much have you been going out and to where?

We literally havent been out.
Since around 16th march
4th april dp and me sore throat then horrible cough he had headache. Then dc got the cough.
Only supermarket food delivery 5 days earlier. I would say he was over a metre at least away and anyway both me and dp got ill at same time. Obviously just outside.
We wash the shopping (not frozen but wash hands after touching that), and quarantine post.
However dp is convinced we got what dd caught end of feb but that was like 28d earlier and again both of us? Plus both dc got ill with dd2 getting new runny nose.!

However there was apparently some evidence that othwr colds/coronaviruses and maybe adenoviruses do reactivate when you are run down - but again both me and dp.
If i did get it from the delivery it is incredibly contagious and cant see how shielding oeople would be ok without doibg the complete contactless drop offs. (Which is what we are now doing).
Have to say though supermarket shopping and even deliveries are probably very high risk. As people wont say they are ill when getting a delivery... And apparently 20% of people are asymptomatic
So if 5% have had covid 1% were asymptomatic. Thousands of people in a supermarket a day.

Otherwise weve only been in the garden. But it is obviously close to the pavements and people are always running/walking past/cycling.

They could do with testing all the people in a b&q or tesco q.
To see how many have it and point out how dangerous. And also test the bus and trains and passengers.
This is why we all need masks though less coughed on your shopping.

Also adenovirus can live 3m on a surface i think so if you get ill in your home it could be another bug. Or they might find as one study showed it can stay in the air 3h.

Also if i did get it from the delivery person it show how high risk so many jobs are as many occasions you would be 1m apart.

If you’re not sure if it’s hayfever, take some antihistamine and if your symptoms go it’s an allergy!

I have only been to the shops, so no real idea of how or when.

I apologise for not explaining myself in great detail whilst not well.

Yes I have been to the shops - but as the incubation period is unknown I am not sure on which trip (hence when) because I do not know when, I do not know how because it may have been whilst waiting in a queue or when touching a surface (hence how)

So in actual fact I have no idea (if it is confirmed I have CV, test tomorrow) how or when I was infected. It may even have been when on a walk, from a delivery etc.

I will never know, hence my comment. It was not a "oh my goodness how could this have possibly happened to me." but rather I have no way of pinpointing a transmission source.

Have to say though supermarket shopping and even deliveries are probably very high risk. As people wont say they are ill when getting a delivery

My deliveries are completely non contact, I don’t even open the door to Ocado or the post or Amazon. I’ve had a couple of things from DPD and they insist on taking a photo with the door open but from way back. I wear gloves to open post or parcels that I can’t leave for several days, and food is washed in a bleach solution if it needs refrigeration or it isn’t touched for at least 72 hours. A friend brought me a present 10 days ago and stood talking on the garden path for probably 45 minutes to an hour. She was at least 2m away but I wasn’t comfortable with it really. She and all her family are fit and well though. So I just don’t know but I feel ropey today for sure.

@trappedsincesundaymorn sorry to hear your mum had it, I hope she's OK now. Was your dad going out to do the shopping?

NaturalBornWoman

How do you wash your food in bleach?

I dont know anyone who has had it since lockdown or even a suspected case of it.

My parents decided to self isolate a week before lockdown. They have left the house twice since then to walk the dog in a field with no contact at all with anyone else. I live opposite them and know this to be true! They have a weekly shopping delivery and I have collected meds etc and dropped them on the doorstep. Two weeks ago my mum was admitted to hospital and upon discharge it stated "communal covid pneumonia". The communal part was because she hadn't actually been in contact with anyone. She is still very poorly now and breathless etc

My friends mum did and very sadly passed away. They think she caught it from a delivery as it was 3.5 weeks after lockdown.

Also forgot to say both my parents were and still are extremely cautious. Non contact deliveries of food and everything disinfected, all post sprayed with disinfectant and left for a week before opening.

@KenDodd I mean packaged food, things like milk, yogurt, meat in sealed plastic etc. either a weak bleach solution, Milton or soapy water. Cardboard packaging I either remove or wipe down with alcohol wipes. Anything that doesn’t need refrigeration gets quarantined.

Can you go and get tested? Only way to know for sure. I’ve seen on the news that there are drive up test stations in the UK now.

So no one has actually had it confirmed by a test?

Can we find someone who has taken a test recently. The numbers on the slides at the press conference have been very low for new infections despite a significant increase in testing, approx doubling of the daily number of tests but the number of positives hasn't changed much which would suggest that there aren't a large numbers of people catching it out and about.

This isn't what you want to hear but yes I believe I got CV from the only place I went where I could not wear a face covering and I was in a room with a group of people it was the only time I was in a group with others and it was for a period of hours and that is where I got it .. I don't want to go into detail as don't want to out myself .. it probably doesn't help at all

I don't think you need a test..

I had flu previously this was Coronavirus.

I would like to have the antibody test though

I developed quite an intense upper respiratory infection after being inside the house for 4 weeks. Only had deliveries which i am very cautious about handling and i wipe down. I have no idea why i became ill. I have no idea if its covid. But i wonder if common virus can stay dormant in our immune system longer than the usual 2 weeks. Nobody else in my household caught it.

I got what I’m pretty sure was it from the supermarket in lockdown - despite wearing gloves, antibac, dettol food packets etc but I DIDNT wear a mask - silly me!

@TheGreatWave

Thanks for the clarification. Context is everything and it is sometimes hard to convey that on here.

Hope you feel better soon and that the test results are what you want (I appreciate that not everybody wants the same outcome).

Thanks hey the written word is often difficult to interpret, and often something that is clear to us is not what is conveyed. I am not sure which way I want the test to go if I am honest, so will see what happens.

I don't think you need a test..
I had flu previously this was Coronavirus.

I think you do. Until very recently you needed symtoms to get a test so presumably most people being tested would think they had CV as they would have had symptoms of CV. Most tests were negative though so it would seem most people were wrong. I remember a tread here a while ago, a poster was very I'll, convinced it was CV, had a test and was really disappointed (because it meant no immunity) to find it was negative. Lots of others came on with the same story. Without a test, we really don't know, especially if you haven't been around somebody who has had a positive test.

I was not tested but I had covid symptoms in March. I think I caught it from a colleague at work who got coronavirus (she went abroad then got symptoms a week later when she landed back in UK).

There are a LOT of people going to be walking around with it after testing negative.

If half a million tests have been done ( at a guess as I dont know the latest figures) then there could be 150,000 people with a false negative result, most of whom will only be mildly affected so straight back to work etc.
There are plenty of people who would have contracted it before lockdown but not realised for 3 weeks, 14 days incubation then 5-7 days before symptoms are even noticed in some cases.

DH probably got it from someone who had been off work for 14 days and had symptoms early in his ‘four off’ ( 4 on/ 4 off shift work) so potentially 17 days and still contagious !
I have been shopping once a week so although he technically could have got it from me - my symptoms only started the day after his, he started 5 days after sitting in his office for 10 minutes with his colleague at shift handover.
This virus seems to work so differently to others, it will be years before they unpick it all.

The test page says to get tested in day 1-5 so I’m assuming outside those days it’s not as accurate.

Just goes to show that many people can get it and be asymptomatic.. which seeing as it kills some people but others are asymptomatic carriers must make it a bugger of a virus to control.