Question on schools reopening

[ruby2019missyou]

I know that Downing street are meant to be announcing a plan next week for schools re-opening. I was wondering when they were planning for this to happen and if they were planning for all year groups to return at once or a phased return. Just speculating obviously. What does everyone else think?

It's also important to note that whilst teachers are only paid for 195 days, there is the expectation that we work outside of those and this extends the 1265 directed hours.

For example - annual reports tend to be written for most teachers during the May half term and I have always spent at least 3 full days (sometimes more) writing these. I am therefore working unpaid for at least 3 days during the holiday and have accepted this has to be done and plan my time accordingly.

Then there is the weekish of prep if you have to move classrooms during the summer and plan for the following year - that's another week gone that I'm not paid for but I'm happy to accept this as I've done it for the last 10+ years.

If you then add in the weekends I spend checking and amending planning and nights I spend writing reports for governors etc, you'll find I might be only paid for 39 weeks but there are many other weeks I work for free for.

The government have already said there are no plans to open schools during the summer and I doubt they are willing to pay us to open anyway.

*Exceeds, not extends

Pinkflipflop85 I know that it's in a teacher's contract to have several months of holiday a year but these are extraordinary circumstances.

Oh, here we go again...🤯

1. You clearly don’t know anything because there is no such thing in a teachers contract, we simply are not paid for the summer. I repeat, we are NOT PAID for the summer.

1. If time’s are so extraordinary then hairdressers, I expect you for the first 6 weeks after lockdown to give free cuts. Supermarket and office staff, you can all work for free for six weeks...help with this deficit, you know. Bakers and hospitality staff, you can spend six weeks making cakes for all the birthdays that people ended up missing because of the lockdown. Beauticians, same as hairdressers...I need my nails done. Free.

And we can all work for free for 6 weeks! It’s extraordinary times after all.

As for when schools will go back? F*k knows.

I am not a teacher . Not do I know any teachers.

However I think it would be outrageous to expect teachers to forgo their summer holiday.

Once this is over we are ALL going to want a break. Many teachers would have booked and paid for holidays long before all this happened. They will not get refunds as (if lockdown is finished) they are technically able to go.

I am working from home just like many teachers are. No way on earth will I be forgoing a holiday if I am able to go and neither should teachers OR their families.

All those taking umbrage at a bit of speculating - calm the fuck down. Please.

@ruby2019missyou

It’s not speculation that pisses me off. It’s ignorance.

They are going back on even days for children taller than average for their year group and odd days for children shorter than average. Children who are exactly average height will be sent to Eton.

Grasspigeons

The most brilliant of any answer on this subject.

Schools will likely be asked to make plans that suit the majority of their stakeholders, worth bearing in mind, when and if you are outraged at what they are doing,

OP, if only you had read one of the other threads before revealing that you were, for a little while, the only person on MN who was not aware of how teachers are paid.

In Scotland it will be staggered, we will not have all pupils back at once, there is talk about those transitioning being first back in. Apparently our local high school has said not until after holidays yet the primaries and nurseries know nothing yet.
Personally i hope for june, a bit of time to sort things and settle kids, gutted it won't be all back to normal but that's the way it is.

A new uniform option for when schools start to open perhaps?

twitter.com/chowleen/status/1254590781446410240

This is actually a really informative thread about schools in China that have reopened

twitter.com/RobotsforJowee/status/1256224221451243521

Those kids who are older can socially distance more effectively

@Barbie222 I didn't read any of the other threads. Can you forgive me?

@siddalee Yep. Why not.

I know that it's in a teacher's contract to have several months of holiday a year but these are extraordinary circumstances

a bit of speculating

That's not a bit of speculating,
bitter, maybe but it also comes across as quite an accusatory piece of speculation. Why oh why do people have such a negative opinion of teachers? It comes through in so many people's posts on here, whether the intention is there or not. It's like it's ingrained.

No one knows, stop asking.

If you don't work in a school, stop trying to guess. All schools are different, you don't know how they work.

Teaching unions were consulted today by the DfE - it's literally a conversation right now. Schools are planning for a variety of options on things like curriculum, PSHE teaching, counselling etc, but can't plan for logistics or staffing because we don't know.

We learned about schools closing at the same time as everyone else - in the press conference. We won't get to hear about schools opening in any different way.

Why oh why do people have such a negative opinion of teachers? It comes through in so many people's posts on here, whether the intention is there or not. It's like it's ingrained.

Everywhere. Not just here, although her is especially toxic I find.

Teaching has bad PR. 'Those who can, do - those who can't, teach' and so on.

But in my opinion, education has bad PR in this country. It's not valued. So why would the purveyors of education be valued.

Yes they will! Happy days