Children under 10 cannot transmit the virus?

[Whatsthis1515]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52470838

What are your thoughts on this? Would be amazing if true

I am sure Viner would have looked at their report. Maybe not. This one better 🤷🏼‍♀️?

It is good news however we should not be running to hug Grandparents just yet.

Queue dementors. This goes against their narrative

I love how the scientists here are now super cautious. Now I agree nobody should be hugging grandparents yet but to pour cold water on it is a bit much. Not enough research done? Well fine we can wait a few weeks and that would be sensible based on where we are.

But I wonder where all these super cautious scientists where when they agreed to Cheltenham and to the Liverpool Madrid match? Sorry if I don’t have loads of faith in our approach.

Will be watching these other countries with interest.

• But scientists have poured cold water on the move, warning of no consensus in the scientific community. Professor Russell Viner, the president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, said: "We don't think that it would be a good idea for children to hug their grandparents in the UK without more data.*

Hopefully they’re just being cautious and doing their own independent evaluation before pronouncing. Given what’s at stake, I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect them to give a knee-jerk reaction a few hours after an announcement.

What special thing happens on their 10th birthday?

"Young children are not infected and do not transmit the virus," he said. "They just don't have the receptors to catch the disease."

Only we know children can and do catch the virus 🤔 if this is a direct quote and not a, lost in translation, then we know that this piece of information is false. I hope there is truth in it as my 70 year old parent is main childcare for my siblings children and I want to get my class back in schoo. Knowing they couldn't transmit to staff, each other or their families would make a massive difference.
Need more studies into this that are peer reviewed and fairly conclusive.

My thoughts are I would take this with a very large pinch of salt. Lack of credible peer reviewed data aside what is the biological difference between a 10 year old and an 11 year old? . I know 10 year olds the size of an average 6 year old and 10 year olds the size of a teenager. It just doesn't make sense.

This is positive. And we have the benefit of being able to watch what other countries do and see how that works.

True, but the last time we had a golden opportunity to learn from those countries in advance, we squandered it.

Oh FFS.

this is nearly a bloody stupid as the "advice" that was issued by the French minister saying not to use ibuprofen, which has caused a complete headache; how do you prove that ibuprofen is safe to use in a novel infection when we don't know that much about the infection? It's probably extremely safe, btw.

I know we all want it to be true and for children to be 'safe'; but take this with a very large pinch of salt until there's some decent science announced

There have been at least 3 uk teachers to die.
Something like 63 education people in ny.
And a 5yo died here.
Can they spread it to other kids. ?
Clearlg the teacher could give it to the kids.
The kids in yr 4 will be 9 in sept.
So yr 5 and 6 would minimum have kids capable of transmitting and thd whole of secondary.
The world needs to get testing kids to find out.
But currently the most likely route would be key worker to their kids.
If some people dont get symptoms for longer up to 28d its possible kids hold it off for more or less time.
the gov would have some data from when the italy school trips came back. As to if parents who didnt go caught it

• An otherwise healthy 14-year-old was one of the victims announced today - they died on Monday, April 20 * Ok not under 10 but caution is needed.

There was a newborn on Lorraine yesterday who was the youngest person in the UK to get it.

We know of a 6 year old who was rushed to hosiptal and tested positive. She passed it on to her family.

This could be dangerous/wishful thinking without further evidence to support initial theories.

Nothing special happens on their 10th birthday. There are a couple of possibilities as to why the researchers have cut off at 10. It is possibly due to how the analysis has been broken down i.e the researchers have looked at 0-10, 11-20, 21-29 etc. So there is no evidence of transmission in the under 10 group but some in the 11-20 group. The younger ages in the 11-20 group may be fine but there is no way of telling.

The other possibility is they have found that 11 is the age when the risk of transmission starts to increase so most 11 year olds would not transmit the virus but it’s possibly that some do and this starts to increase with age.

I haven’t looked at the original research so I’m just putting forward a couple of suggestions in response to the idea that something magic happens at 10.

Also the q would be do the severe / asymptomatic childeen pass it on.
As a severe case would be pneumonia so more bouts of coughing.
A childs cough probably not travelling as far as an adults.

Would be amazing positive news if it can be further verified. Getting kids back into education setting without posing significant risk to others would be wonderful.

We kept schools going right up til lockdown, when Covid was widely spread across the general public

And yet there have not been reports of a high proportion of teachers becoming ill.

In the final two weeks before lockdown school near me were struggling with a skeleton staff as so many were off unwell.

Now, with schools open for key worker chn/ vulnerable kids, only those teachers who are not classed as vulnerable are working so it follows that the least vulnerable are working in school and therefore more likely to only suffer mild symptoms

Did anyone actually read the article? They said that children under ten cannot be infected by Covid-19, which is factually incorrect.

I was just about to post saying that. This is surely fake news even if it is the BBC

Dr Koch advised only "brief contact with grandchildren", not family get-togethers, babysitting, or spending time with children outside the home.

Why? If they can't catch it then why brief contact and not babysitting?

Okay the BBC article goes on to quote people saying it's not proven or not true.
"Sounding a note of caution, Germany's chief virologist Christian Drosten told Austrian broadcaster ORF that there was insufficient data to say conclusively that young children could not transmit the virus."

And then we have
The new advice applies to young children who show no signs of illness while older children must still avoid contact with grandparents.

"young children who show no signs of illness" so.. this will be young children who HAVE caught it then?

That last bit was a typo but clearly if they are referring to those young children who show no signs of illness they must expect that some CAN catch it.

@LastTrainEast Exactly!

@EachDubh hit the nail on the head. We know it is incorrect that kids under 10 cannot have the virus. We have little research on transmission. I've searched and found a limited number. So let's wait and see...

Did anyone actually read the article? They said that children under ten cannot be infected by Covid-19, which is factually incorrect

That, along with critical thinking doesn’t happen on here anymore and if you dare mention it, you’re a doom monger.

There have been at least 3 uk teachers to die.
Something like 63 education people in ny.

Given the 10s of thousands of Covid deaths in both places, I’d hardly say that was statistically significant.

It has been speculated on since January. There really is still no evidence of children spreading it to others, although children are sometimes becoming ill themselves. It's difficult to accept as flu, for instance, doesn't behave that way so we talk about children as superspreaders.

"Young children are not infected and do not transmit the virus," he said. "They just don't have the receptors to catch the disease."

We know this not to be true as a few kids have tested positive 🤷‍♀️