Two new waves of death

[LilacTree1]

According to the Telegraph

Apologies I f already been shared

www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/two-new-waves-deaths-break-nhs-new-analysis-warns/

@LilacTree1 are you going to comment on this yourself?

Sparkling I was just sharing information

Is that not allowed?

My late father was HCP. so I will say these are probably going to be called “unforeseen consequences” but I think that’s bollocks.

I presume you want a comment on the London piece too so I’ll go back and comment there.

Is info sharing frowned upon? Should it have gone on the main Corona thread?

We knew this would happen. We said it. But people just put their fingers in they ears and "covid covid" all the way.

Going by a lot of posts on here these deaths are acceptable, bloody collateral damage in the "war" against Covid.

I get the info sharing but I am not sure what you want from it.

We need to start getting Covid patients out of the normal hospitals and actually using those big specialist ones that cost so much money and start using our normal hospitals for everything else.

It's a pretty well accepted assumption that this is going to happen - sorry have lost the source of this graphic.

Sparkling I’d like people to look at it

Someone posted - quite reasonably - that MSM were low on science and big on emotional stories, so I’m sharing these.

I’m not planning to bombard the board or anything.

I think it’s important to highlight collateral damage as much as Covid 19. Princess sorry for use of the term, it’s not intended disparagingly, it’s just I think the government see it that way.

That graph scares/worries me more than any stats on Covid.

Ok, so here's a comment.

On the one hand GP surgeries are saying 'stay away', call 111, surgery is closed, phone triage for all, don't spread Covid etc etc.

On the other hand GPs are worried that nobody is presenting with the usual bits and pieces, with the consequences that a) people with things that really should be checked out aren't presenting and b) when the surgery reopens there will be an overwhelming avalanche of demand.

They can't have it both ways; my personal view is that the message needs to change, but I have no insider knowledge.

Purple “ my personal view is that the message needs to change”

I think the message won’t change because many staff remain diverted to Covid. So that’s what needs to change, then the message can reflect it IYSWIM.