How contagious is the virus ?

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How contagious is this virus say in comparison to flu or norovirus which I always catch every year?
I'm only asking as I had an anxiety riddled day today.
I walked to the shop by my house I had to walk through a little park and this man was infront of me and he had a vape and honestly I got closer but stepped quite far to the side it's a narrow pathway and he blew out his vapour just as I'm getting close really was out of order I felt and I inhaled the whole cloud.
Then I went in the shop no gloves touched the handle usually so careful with this but on the way home the wind blew my hair into my mouth so I moved the hair and was like shit I haven't washed my hands and touched the handle the milk etc

So I've come home riddled with anxiety at breathing in this vapour cloud and the handle incident. I'm pregnant I don't think I would be this bad otherwise. How contagious is this do you think? Someone at work had the sickness bug and I didn't go near him different toilet etc and I got home being sick all night long it was that easy I'm hoping this virus isn't as contagious but I've a feeling it is if not more so?

Can anyone give me some logical advice or opinion on this ? Have hardly ate today worked myself up so much.

Probably 95% of cases come from being face to face someone for at least 15 minutes (nothing less will do).

How many of us are face to face with someone for 15 minutes each day? Not many... but millions have it. This was advice put out at the very beginning. If it really did require 15 minutes of being breathed on by an infectious person to stand a chance of getting it, it would be easy to contain and eliminate.

Source:

mobile.twitter.com/AbraarKaran/status/1254181962878722052

Don't get me wrong it could have been. But equally, you could have got it on the Tube.

It’s very contagious and I think there are a lot of people who have it/have had it with no symptoms. I have lots of friends who work in care homes. Lots of the residents have tested positive whilst the staff remain healthy despite not having much in the way of PPe. That would suggest that being positive and having no symptoms is very common.

We had a small outbreak via work. (Boring admin, not healthcare.) x’s spouse y was abroad for a thing and came home. As the whole thing kicked off and y felt a bit off, x moved out into a hotel to allow y to self-isolate. X came to work and carried on having meetings etc. Y tested positive. Work did not announce this but we later know. Work implemented remote working in accordance with guidance. Two weeks later x tested positive. Less than a week later, one of x’s senior managers tested positive.
We only have four cases in our very small town and all 4 can be linked to Y directly. One was the spouse, but the other two were community transmission in the ordinary course of a working day.

How many of us are face to face with someone for 15 minutes each day? Not many... but millions have it.

But millions don’t have it .. confirmed cases are ~125,000 ... obviously there are many more unconfirmed cases and some asymptomatic cases, but that still doesn’t add up to a large percentage of the population.

When you think of how many people are still going out to work and mixing with other people (often unavoidably), it’s not hard to see why there are still new infections

"being positive and having no symptoms is very common"

When I hear "very common" in an MN context, I think it must mean at least 30%. If at least 30% of the population has had 'rona with almost zero symptoms then the death rate is massively lower than we thought which is excellent news (and maybe any control measures can be light touch and very short term going forward).

Medication leaflets say that "very common" means > 10% were affected.
10.1% getting a near-zero symptom case : that would be excellent news and also mean the hospitalisation death rate is hugely lower than we thought.

I guess we will see where reality lies. I'm still predicting only 3% of population have had C19 so far and if control measures continue as expected, no more than an extra ~1% will get C19 each month after April 2020.

What about the joggers panting? Where I live they are everywhere, even outside essential shops. I live alone, the office is now one person at a time, I sterilise and wash everything, and have done social distancing properly. My biggest risk has been joggers panting in my face and I’m really angry and upset over it tbh.

I would be amazed if proper research (rather than media/MN panic and frothing) found that there was a genuine risk from ‘joggers panting’

"in my face" implies under 50cm, maybe under 30cm.
Why can't you keep at least 50cm away from joggers' faces?

I have to use a canal path beside a road. They run right at you, your options are get into the canal or step into traffic.
Other places, they run right behind you and you can’t hear until it’s too late. Side of your face hair etc panted on. Blind corners. I’d a slobbering jogger bang into me on one. I’m fed up with it.

It's very contagious

On the 22nd of March the death toll was 281. A month later and that toll is over 20,000

But OP, from the incidents you describe, I think the chances of you having caught the virus are very slight.

Thankyou hopefully it will be ok I have my 20 week scan weds so worrying about that.
Thankfully no one jogs much by me not that kind of area to keep fit.
But when in park I do find people still walk close and when I take my dog it's worse as kids run to stroke her and I can't be mean to them but wish their parents would tell them not to come up and stroke her it's made me not to want to take her for walks now.