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Antibody tests - had one and it's negative and I now feel really upset

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FacingMyWaterloo · 25/04/2020 12:58

I know this might sound ridiculous and I'm partially posting for you all to slap me round the face with a wet fish...

I work in central London and have a train/tube plus bus or walk commute. I'm defined as a key worker and though I have been able to do some work at home, I've also still had to go in, on and off.

In the middle of March, I had the coronavirus symptoms. 3 days after I came down with them, my partner (who is asthmatic, and works from home anyway) got the same symptoms as me but worse.

I need to do more work in town v soon so thought for peace of mind, we would have a private antibody test. We were absolutely convinced we had had it. His has come back positive and mine is negative and I feel totally devastated. I actually wish we hadn't had them done now. I did read there is more chance of a false negative and there are some people whose antibody levels don't pick up enough to test anyway.

Please talk some sense in me because for some reason I feel utterly miserable about it. Dp is of course delighted and now feels invincible yet he's the one who gets to stay at home anyway!

OP posts:
petalseaside · 25/04/2020 18:05

@oaktree55 you say “Reliable antibody testing is available privately at a cost for those willing to pay.” Who provides these and how to go about getting them done ?

chomalungma · 25/04/2020 18:08

People really need to know about negative predictive value and positive predictive value - especially if you are doing a 'screening' test like this - where we don't know the prevalence of antibodies in a population.

Even a highly specific test can still give a lot of false positives if a lot of the population is tested and they don't have the disease.

laidbacklife · 25/04/2020 18:16

It's most likely a false negative. Or perhaps your partner had a false positive?! Not sure which specific test you did but my understanding is they are at best 70% accurate. In any case we don't yet know how long immunity (if any) lasts. If you did indeed catch it, which I would assume you did, then you didn't suffer a severe reaction anyway, so I wouldn't be too concerned. There is no evidence (yet) that even if you were to catch it twice that the symptoms would be more severe in a second or subsequent instance.

Frownette · 25/04/2020 18:55

I can see why you're upset OP.

Best to brush it off. The companies playing on people's worries by offering inaccurate or misleading tests should be held to account

Keepdistance · 25/04/2020 19:12

Hmm the gov are send tests out to 1k households so there must be accurate ones.
Nyc has tested as ha germany.

I think they just dont want us to know.
As if its 1-2% then our death rate is huge.
If 50% of us have had it they loked down really late.
Even 80% accuracy and 20% false neg would help identify people. How would they find out you can get it again unless some swab tested people come back positive again and that already happens.

chomalungma · 25/04/2020 19:22

Nyc has tested as ha germany

The word 'accuracy' is not really a good word to use here.

Positive predictive value and negative predictive value is better - especially if you are screening a general population.

If you do a test on a population that has had symptoms, then the PPV is better.

Frownette · 25/04/2020 19:52

@chomalungma could you go through PPV and NPV please?

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 25/04/2020 19:54

I don’t think these antibody tests are accurate

chomalungma · 25/04/2020 20:16

PPV and NPV

It's all to do with the maths, the population you are testing and how specific and sensitive a test is.

Let's say you have 10,000 people.
10% of the population have antibodies (this is just an example)

So 1000 people have antibodies.

A test could be 99% sensitive. So of those people who get tested.

990 test positive
10 test negative

9000 people don't have antibodies.

A test could be 99% specific

So 90 people test positive (false positive) and 8910 test negative

So altogether - you have 990 true positive / 1080 positive

So a 92% TPV - if you get a positive result, then you have a 92% chance of actually having antibodies

You can alter the values depending on how good the test is and how prevalent the antibodies are in the population being tested.

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