Why is it OK for people to sit in the same room together on TV, but not for us to sit in the garden?

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Just watching Saturday Kitchen. They've changed the format a bit so that there are only two people eating together in the studio, with others joining by video link.

Watching the two blokes sit together at the table drinking wine together... made me wonder... how come they're allowed to do that and we're not?

The same applies to BBC Breakfast news - two presenters sit together on the sofa, at a safe distance apart. From a disease transmission point of view, it's low risk but there's still a risk. But I assume they've been allowed to risk assess it, and consider it ok

Surely therefore we should be allowed to the same? I wouldn't dream of going inside someone's house - but sitting in their garden for a chat at a safe distance? Surely that's less risky than sitting together in a studio?

Yep. I agree

The same reason my husband can chat to customers and colleagues but can't go and sit in Parents garden.

Posted that too soon, one is essential for paying the bills the other isn't.

It's a bit daft really when you think about it.

'Cause it's their job.

The same reason my husband can chat to customers and colleagues but can't go and sit in Parents garden

As in they've accepted the risk of spreading it to work colleagues but don't want to risk it with elderly parents?

What about non-vulnerable people, in low risk outdoor scenarios? I have a friend in a European country. She said they have 'intelligent lockdown' where they are trusted to make their own sensible risk assessed decisions. She's been visiting friends in their garden, at a safe distance, taking a bottle of wine and having a chat. The risk is minimal if at all.

I feel like we're being treated like morons unable to intelligently assess the risk ourselves.

Posted that too soon, one is essential for paying the bills the other isn't

It's essential for nothing more than making the tv look good. If they can have two people on a video link why do they need a third sitting at the table drinking wine?

As in they've accepted the risk of spreading it to work colleagues but don't want to risk it with elderly parents?
His parents aren't elderly. He can go to work it's essential. Visiting people for a chat isn't.

Visiting people for a chat isn't

But it's also not going to spread the virus if you do it from a safe distance.

The blokes on Saturday Kitchen aren't exactly key workers having to put themselves in the face of danger.

He can go to work it's essential.

I thought it was you can go to work if you can't do your job from home. The OP makes a good point, why do we need multiple people in a studio when it's possible to use video link.

The blokes on Saturday Kitchen aren't exactly key workers having to put themselves in the face of danger.

Neither is my husband. You don't have to be a key worker to go to work.

Media is classed as essential work and not all of it can be carried out from home although clearly social connections have been reduced with links from home, spacing and reduced production crews.

Morale and some media consistency is very important, especially to the most isolated people.

The risk of spread from media production is a considerably smaller numbers game than anyone and everyone being able to visit eachother's garden. Some people will play game and space apart responsibly. Thousands wouldn't and would take that as permission for normal socialisation, then place other people they contact at higher risk.

Yeah and I'm not even suggesting that what they're doing is risky or wrong - I think it's fine.

But if it's fine and low risk for them to do it, surely its fine and even lower risk for us to do it outside at an even greater distance than Charlie & Naga are sitting on the sofa?

why do we need multiple people in a studio when it's possible to use video link.
It makes for shit TV, HIGNFY is a case in point.

Some people will play game and space apart responsibly. Thousands wouldn't and would take that as permission for normal socialisation, then place other people they contact at higher risk.

I think this is exactly the point. If the law was clear ie you won't get prosecuted for doing it, but the guidelines were strict to hopefully catch those who don't understand how to risk assess... then surely those of us who can risk assess and act responsibly could be allowed to do so?

That's what they're doing in other countries. Why not here? I feel the British Government have treated us like idiots from the beginning on this.

It makes for shit TV, HIGNFY is a case in point

Graham Norton being another one. It was cringey. Falls completely flat without an audience to play to.

I guess my point is....

If it's worth taking the risk to make better TV, then do you really think that the risk is that great to begin with?

Would the TV personalities really put their lives in danger to make better TV? Or is it more likely that the risk is minimal and equally so for the rest of us, if we used common sense

But it’s either safe, unsafe or not.

Lots of the rules have no logic at all.

I have had people standing on my front lawn talking to me. We were stood for so long that they came round the back and sat down. Much further than 2 metres apart, touched nothing.

We’re not stupid. Unfortunately lots of people are tho’.

I feel like we're being treated like morons unable to intelligently assess the risk ourselves.

Well yeah. Because we are. We tried appealing to people's intelligence- remember the packed beaches because the sun came out that weekend?

It’s all a pile of shite OP. The rules are shite.

The whole world is finding its way in dealing with this, no one knows the best way to do things and of course one size fits all rules don't but that's the easiest way to communicate with the public.

Every day we see pictures of covidiots who think the rules don't apply to them or don't care about who they might infect, a few weeks of not being able to meet people in your garden isn't really a hardship compared to saving lives is it?

I agree OP.
That said, lockdown has proved to me that you can’t leave people to interpret the rules. Even when they are clear, people will apply their own interpretation. They will push them and bend them.
Other people see this and do the same.
An ‘intelligent lockdown’ would not work here.

I agree op, I posted similar about the one show
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I felt the same about the charity thing the other night on bbc xx

Didn't mean to post xx at the end there

It doesn't make sense. I've sat in my DM's garden a good few metres away from her whilst taking food and watering her plants for her. I don't believe there's any risk.