Army issued with Citriodiol spray and advised to take Vitamin D

[SophieB100]

I saw this on Sky News yesterday. (Can't do a link, but if you go on Sky News page, there is an article about this).

Basically, the Army who are working on the front line helping the NHS etc., have been issued with a spray containing Citriodiol which is a mosquito repellent, as an extra source of protection, along with PPE etc. I know from a close family member that anti-malaria drugs are used in hospitals as one way to treat Covid - so again, a link to mosquitos.

Also, I know a lot of you have been on the Vitamin D thread, and the army have been advised to take Vit D to boost their immune systems.

Just thought you might be interested in this.

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I think they are using it because it has been used in the past with other types coronavirus.

I read the SKY article, not the Guardian. There was no mention in the SKY one of purchase, and the nearest to endorsement was “a military source said he had been told there was evidence to suggest that it might have a similar effect on the strain of the disease behind the pandemic”

(similar to ‘the product ... is known to kill types of coronavirus’ - but it doesn’t say which ones)

I've linked the Guardian article @iVampire. Clearly states in that article that there is evidence of purchase.

We have all been advised to take vitamin D supplements for some time (years). Vitamin D supplements have also been recommended for all of us during lockdown too.

Trump was pushing one antimalarial - chloroquine. But a trial at a US military hospital found it didn’t work (I think there were more deaths in those who took it but not sure if significantly more)

But this isn’t a medication in the same sense as hydroxychloroquine.

From what I can gather from a few limited news articles is that there is some limited evidence it’s useful alongside other hygiene and PPE tools. It has the advantage of lasting for a few hours per application and has no particular dangers from using it so why not. I believe it’s contains eucalyptus which is a natural disinfectant.

It’s not a miracle defence but I can see the logic of giving it a bash.

They made the same point on the Sky news report @Cornettoninja, that is is used alongside every other precaution, and they said that it wouldn't do any harm, so agree that's why they are using it too.

I don't know what level of credibility some of you give the army, but do you really think they'd accept a freebie and hand it out to all serving in the fight against Covid.
Let's stop and have a little think about all the ways that could or would go wrong.

The armed forces are routinely offered health advice, and where necessary supplements vaccinations and any preventive medicine.
Vitamin D evidence has been around for a long time

As for the WHO their credibility in all of this is only slightly higher than Donald Trump.

Covid19 isn’t mosquito borne like malaria. (Theoretically the mosquitos might be able to transfer the virus spores on their feet from one human to another, but the risk is infinitesimally small... it’s not considered a vector like transferring blood contaminated with the plasmodium parasite via their mouth pieces).

Part of the pathology of covid19 is that it can attack the heme molecules in the red blood cells, like the plasmodium parasite does, even though they’re different organisms. Hydroxychloroquine seems to work by protecting the integrity of the red blood cells from attack, it doesn’t have anything to do with mosquito/insect borne transmission.

Interesting thread, thanks OP. Saw this mentioned yesterday. Can't imagine the army buying into this without doing their research first.

This is something that I haven’t heard but it has left me confused, it looks like they are talking about Lemon Eucalyptus being the important ingredient. I would love to hear how it works, is it literally as a disinfectant for the skin (like hand sanitiser)?

As for vit D, I have a good stock as I have a large dark skinned family and have long been aware of vit d deficiencies in Asian families. I noticed that multi vitamins are now running low during my weekly supermarket run.

Lots of evidence. Blood samples have been taken from covid 19 patients in New Orleans, Indonesia and the Philippines (nearly all severe cases have had massive deficiency, but media don't want to talk about it because vitamin D3 is very, very inexpensive):

medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20075838v1
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3585561
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3571484
dropbox.com/s/ka7h4fbi7xdz9s9/Covid-19%20and%20Vitamin%20D%20Information.pdf?dl=0
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/apt.15777

Indian study out today, 176 covid 19 patients (previously checked serum levels).

Same findings as the New Orleans, Indonesian and Philippines studies:

100% of critical patients less than 75 years old had Vitamin D insufficiency

papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3593258

file:///C:/Users/User/Downloads/SSRN-id3593258.pdf

I notice that vit d also affects clotting but cod liveroil is an anticoagulant! And you have to be careful taking with other meds

5th Vit D3 study from Belgium.

Males showed markedly higher percentage of vitamin D deficiency ..Vit D deficiency is a possible risk factor for severe infection in males. Vit D3 supplementation might be an inexpensive, accessible and safe mitigation for covid

Link :
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.01.20079376v1

Hydroxychloroquine needs to be given early to have any advantage to covid patients. Many of the people who received it were very ill already and it does seem to have made a portion of those people even sicker with heart complaints.

There has to be some science there if an anti malarial is being given preventatively to the military alongside vitamin d. It’s interesting!