Why don't supermarkets ask everybody who comes in to wear a mask?

[newfunkychicken]

Or am i being thick?

[PestymcPestFace]

If you can make a few and find one that fits, they can be quite comfortable. DH has a big head and a big nose, we scaled up a concertina mask and now he is comfy. DD broke her cheekbone at the beginning of March and is still quite tender, a concertina mask with a nose wire suits her. DS and I prefer shaped ones.
I wear one at work, it takes 1.5 - 2 hours to become uncomfortable. So then I wash my hands, go outside take off the mask, do some breathing exercises and then put a fresh one on. It is not that much hassle. I work with shielded people.

By wearing a mask, I protect others, it would be nice if others also wore one and protected me.

It's time to encourage people to wear face masks as a precautionary measure on the grounds that we have little to lose and potentially something to gain, say experts in The BMJ today.
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200409105405.htm

[PestymcPestFace]

Sostenueto you seem to be confusing Tescos with a covid ward.
How about you stop the me, me, me attitude and think of others.

A fabric face mask is to prevent your spittle, from when you breath, talk, laugh, pant, cough, sneeze getting onto objects and other people. You still need to wash hands and socially distance.

[Sostenueto]

I am not working with vunerable people I keep my distance I only shop once a week so therefore I do not need to wear a mask.

[Helspopje]

The teachers at staff at school are wearing gloves all the time
Totally invalidated thing to do and worse than adhering to hand washing rules
Daft

They also appear to have totally misunderstood the 3 grades of self isolation/shielding

Re masks
1 they’re in hideously short supply- prioritise for those that need.

1. If used incorrectly they’re worse than no mask (common)
   
2. If fitted incorrectly they’re useless (common)

[00100001]

@newfunkychicken

Oh well, if the Americans suggest it, then we should blindly follow suit...

[Sostenueto]

Whatever I put over my face be it a bit if fabric to a bacterial wipe I saw someone wearing the other week will get some of the virus on it from other people and I will then be breathing it in directly. So in supposedly protecting others by wearing makeshift ill fitting masks I would actually put myself in more jeopardy. Just stay at home do not go out that is the only way to protect others and yourself.

[Sennetti]

@PestymcPestFace

But no mask is going to stop those things! Not unless it’s a proper ,made for purpose mask

People are going round wearing masks made for sanding/woodwork or flimsy material ones.

[Sostenueto]

It was the me me people that contributed the most to the spread of this virus pesky not me. I live alone I rarely go out before this virus being disabled. I didn't travel abroad, go out constantly because I couldn't afford to. So before we accuse others of being selfish because they don't believe wearing an Ill fitted mask will protect anyone think about your lifestyle before you were forced to lockdown.
I don't blame anyone for the virus but am sick and tired of others telling me I'm selfish because I don't agree with what they say!

[Shitsgettingcrazy]

I don't blame anyone for the virus but am sick and tired of others telling me I'm selfish because I don't agree with what they say!

Totally agree with this. Its a tactic to shut people down and stop you disagreeing with them.

They atfmtach some, misguided, morality to it, in the hope it shuts you up.

[PestymcPestFace]

Opportunistic data collected during the SARS epidemic in Asia suggested that population-wide use of face masks may significantly decrease transmission of SARS (another coronavirus)

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3323085
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2440799

Do some research, imperfect wearing of imperfect masks does work if done by the majority of the population.

The unusually high asymptomatic nature of this virus means we all have to act like we have it. A mask (outside of a medical setting) is to protect others from you.

[Soontobe60]

@LilacTree1
@YappityYapYap

NHS staff wear them because they are in very close contact with known infected people on a daily basis. It's now thought that the increased viral load increases the severity of the disease.
They also practice correct use of PPE along with thorough hand washing.

[newfunkychicken]

I wouldn't be able to shop because we have no masks, no elastic in the supermarkets to be able to make them and delivery on Amazon is showing as JUNE.

Are there no masks that can be made without elastic?

Because that’s not what the official advice is.

I’m not totally convinced the government is right.

no proof they work!!

There does seem some…

Washing hands is probably sufficient to deal with the "risk" of supermarket shopping, which is very low.

I hope this is the case… any studies on this?

Its odd. Because on the pro mask threads, people insist those that where them do so correctly.

I imagine most of us are pro “people not dying from this horrible disease or losing jobs”.

[Bounceyflouncey]

@Sostenueto it's just that a lot of people seem to not believe science just because they don't want to do something. If you were told supermarkets could be made safer I bet you would be happy with that. It's kind of like vaccinations, people having one makes others safer, those who don't want to do it themselves (aside from those who medically it is not advisable to have one), those who just don't want to expect to benefit from herd immunity. Fair enough, but it is a bit selfish. But anyway, we are all going to get it anyway, what is the point in trying to reduce the risk for others.

[Victoria6386]

Masks don't actually work, they just provide you with a false sence of security

[Bounceyflouncey]

Masks don't actually work, they just provide you with a false sence of security

Can you share the research on that please? I can find plenty of papers which conclude that homemade masks (even just folded up fabric) do provide protection for others, even if handled incorrectly by the wearer, but only newspaper articles to say that they have no benefit. Also the false sense of security in this context hasn't been looked into, there's loads of ancedotal so and so in sainburys had a mask and kept walking in front of me; but nothing on adherence of the public.

[newfunkychicken]

@00100001

Oh well, if the Americans suggest it, then we should blindly follow suit...

They have done things differently in lots of countries...

Perhaps we shouldn't be blindly following the advice of our government...

[Takemebackto98]

2. Masks don't protect YOU from getting it, they may prevent you from spreading it.

Genuinely don’t understand why this isn’t enough of a reason to encourage everyone to wear one.

[Babdoc]

Masks? Crikey, I’d be happy if my local Tesco could just get the basics right first!
They allowed an old woman to cough and hack her way round every aisle - and it was that rough barking cough so characteristic of Covid - without stopping her or telling her to leave, despite the signs on the door saying not to enter if symptomatic.
The staff stood chatting in the aisles, only inches apart, while customers ignored the one way system, ignored social distancing, barged into occupied aisles etc etc.
There was no attempt to enforce even basic precautions. At the checkouts, the plastic screens were badly positioned, directly in front of the operator. Customers were bag packing beyond that, at the end of the belt, and leaning round the side of the screen to chat from less than a foot away.

[Casino218]

Because I've had the virus weeks ago so I'm not doubling my discomfort by wearing a mask. Other people will be at a different point in this journey and fine if they are but I'm not going through the sham of mask wearing for someone else's psychological benefit.

[PestymcPestFace]

Masks do work as part of the arsenal.

The use of low efficacy masks, such as cloth masks (of efficacy less than 30%), could also lead to significant reduction of COVID-19 burden (albeit, they are not able to lead to elimination). Combining low efficacy masks with improved levels of the other anti-COVID-19 intervention strategies can lead to elimination of the pandemic. The mask coverage needed to eliminate COVID-19 decreases if the mask-use is combined with strict social-distancing.
arxiv.org/abs/2004.07391

Every little helps.

[dottiedodah]

Well I hate anything on my face TBH! Really hoping this doesnt happen .

[CeeceeBloomingdale]

Because their business is to sell food, not protect the nation.

[PestymcPestFace]

Bounceyflouncey I'm also beginning to think that anti maskers are the same group as anti vaxxers.

Anyone who does not want to be compared to an anti vaxxer, please do some research
scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=2020&q=face+mask+fabric+coronavirus&btnG=

[BatsEars]

I wear a mask.

I am thankful even though I've read they protect others more than they protect
me.

I was astounded yesterday when in
my local supermarket by the lack of social distancing from members of the public, as well as the amount of people openly coughing without making any attempt to even cover their mouths.

Some people are as ignorant as pigs in shit

[Lovinglockdownlife]

Masks don’t do anything and I’d never wear one.