Virus survives washing at 60 degrees invalidating antibody tests.

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www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/11463015/coronavirus-can-survive-boiling-point/amp/

This is a rather worrying article. Research shows the bug can be killed at 60 degrees but only in a sterile environment, not in a dirty environment. It can survive at 90+ degrees.

Reading this, how on earth will accurate antibody tests be able to be developed?

The Sun is your source?

What does how long the virus survives in fabric have to do with people’s antibodies?

I haven't read about disproportionate numbers of people working in testing labs getting sick.

And presumably people use laundry SOAP when washing their clothes?

Evidence that isn't the Sun please.

Apparently, they heat the samples to 60 degrees to deactivate them, in order to make them safe to work with.

I also don't understand what it had to do with antibody testing and I'm not going to click on a link to The Sun. Can you elaborate?

As someone else said, they have been doing these tests for weeks and it would have been noticed if everyone who worked in the testing labs was contracting the virus. I have no idea, but can they not tell as part of the testing whether they have deactivated it? Surely they didn't just guess at the heating to 60 degrees to deactivate it part of the process when they worked out how to do the test?

How come soap kills the virus in seconds but 2 hours of detergent at 40c is not good enough? It's always seemed a fuss over nothing these washing guidelines.

Alternative link for those who don't want to support The S*n

m.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Coronavirus-can-survive-prolonged-exposure-to-high-temperatures-study-625118/amp

It matters for the anti body test because someone can be immune but cart the virus around on their clothing

The story wouldn't have been as attention grabbing if the hook had been Coronavirus behaves like other viruses!|

www.insider.com/what-temperature-kills-germs

But the test was about whether heat killls the virus, not about whether soap and water kill the virus.

I assume we're all using soap in the washing machine. Job done.

Proteins are denatured at high temperatures.
This virus does not have special powers which makes it resist to that. It’s a universal process.

Here is the research done by the scientist in question:

www.researchgate.net/publication/340583929_Evaluation_of_heating_and_chemical_protocols_for_inactivating_SARS-CoV-2

and

www.researchgate.net/publication/340769002_Prolonged_viability_of_SARS-CoV-2_in_fomites

PCR (the tests they use) works by cycling through different temperatures to break down the DNA. It’s really easy to understand so research t for yourself.

“It matters for the anti body test because someone can be immune but cart the virus around on their clothing”

You seem to be conflating three things: people having antibodies, people with antibodies passing on the virus to others, and people (in general) / objects passing it on through materials.

'The team noted that in samples with smaller loads of the virus, the 60 °C should be enough to deactivate it, but in cases with larger loads of infection, the near-boiling point is necessary.'

'The study, according to Newsweek, has not yet been peer reviewed or published in a scientific journal and should therefore not be taken as fact.'

Jerusalem Post

I hope when this is all over there is a review of media reporting as the misinformation spread by institutional media outlets is shocking.

Not really dozer

People have been saying the antibody rest will be helpful because then they can go back to work/see family etc etc without worrying. But if they can still pass the virus on that's more of a problem.

Also this, a paper on testing thermal resistance of viruses:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19039515

Also one on foot and mouth virus 'A Virus that can take the heat':

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0969212614003293

Seems that some are in fact very heat-resistant. I am surprised!

Antibody tests do not test for the presence of the virus.
They test for antibodies (made by the human body).
And the temperatures that kill the virus is surely one of the characteristics that is relatively easy to determine.... So unlikely to be a new discovery.
The Corona virus is highly infectious but it is not magic. It will be destroyed by very high temperatures. It is also destroyed by soap and water, bleach, high% alcohol etc: due to the structure of the virus it is easier to destroy with soap etc than some other viruses.

Thanks to everyone who has explained it, much appreciated!

Use detergent in your washing machine, thenLine drying or tumble dry your clothing, tumble dryer gets far hotter than washing machine anyway.

I wouldn’t be putting Laundry in the washing machine without detergent

I just wish that people had paid more attention to science at school.

Especially journalists.

Stop writing this shit, stop reading this shit, and definitely stop sharing this shit.