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Is the fear out of proportion?

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Hotlungs · 20/04/2020 10:21

I’m asking this genuinely as I struggle with anxiety and have a tendency to catastrophise.
I read yesterday that 99.5% of people will survive if they have the virus. Whilst I understand that people are worried they are in the 0.5% is the fear rationale? The press describing it as a ‘killer virus’ and people saying they don’t want to go to the supermarket incase they die. Obviously I’m not talking about those in the vulnerable group.
Are we doing poor risk management? Again to clarify I don’t mean the current lockdown situation to protect the NHS (which is needed) but I mean the fear of it.
We are more likely to die in our cars but we risk manager that (with precautions) to still use them. What are people’s thoughts?

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SnydeVallley · 24/04/2020 19:44

The fear is real but is exaggerated, how many young healthy people are dying from coronvirus each week, please tell me?

Seconding this.

Alex50 · 24/04/2020 19:45

So we don’t know how many teachers have died of coronvirus? So how do you know if they are at risk? They are not even sure if children spread it?

MarginalGain · 24/04/2020 19:46

How would we know who is a teacher in the hundreds of deaths per day

Surely their union will tell us.

Alex50 · 24/04/2020 19:48

There must be numbers somewhere? The fact it is not highlighted on the news, the numbers must be very small.

thatmustbenigelwiththebrie · 24/04/2020 20:10

My sister has corona at the mo (tested and confirmed as she's nhs worker). She felt crappy and flu like for about 48 hours (achey and with a fever) but then was fine. No issue with her lungs. She is 42 btw. That's given me hope as a lot of the news stories make it sound like instant death.

Alex50 · 24/04/2020 20:24

That’s good news, it makes a change to hear about people who have recovered xx

Jrobhatch29 · 24/04/2020 20:31

Really glad your sister is okay

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3877895-The-people-who-ve-Had-It-but-been-actually-TESTED?pg=5&order=

Someone started this thread which is reassuring too. Alot of nhs staff reporting positive tests but are okay xx

dotty202 · 24/04/2020 20:48

Anyone else become much less scared?

Initially, I wanted a long lockdown. Now, one of my DD's has relapsed in most of her mental health conditions but her therapists is closed until September at least because it's voluntary so they're not active. Other DD has had a massive flare up of her skin condition which is deeply upsetting her and been prescribed some basic cream which I already know will have no effect. Same DD has also now dropped out of university as she didn't have the motivation to do the distance learning and has now decided she's not going back. DS with ADHD is getting cranky stuck in the house, no work being set, and is being extremely irritable. All of this combined with thinking my job in the hospitality sector will be gone by the time this over has lead me to the conclusion that after this six weeks is up, I'd much rather the lockdown start to be removed.

I don't know if it's just my family being difficult, but we are all on top of each other and ready to rip each others throats off at any given moment. I felt fairly positive until today. Now, I've realised this is long term and that we are going to have to learn to live with the virus irregardless of lockdown, I am losing the will to live with a full lockdown.

DeathByBoredom · 24/04/2020 20:56

I'm much less scared. The fatality rate and also profile is very reassuring.

Xtinalee · 24/04/2020 22:24

The ICUs are full of people younger than 50. This has been made public for a while, they don’t report all the young deaths so why would people assume we are safe from lockdown

ChippityDoDa · 24/04/2020 22:27

My DH has had it. Aged 38, relatively fit I suppose but nothing out of the ordinary, non smoker. Like the poster above, he had two days of feeling shitty, couldn’t really get out of bed. Then a few more days of being fine but very very tired, that was it. We lived in the same house the whole time, although he slept in a different room and used a different bathroom. I didn’t catch it that I’m aware of and neither did the DC.
My friend who is a consultant in ITU said that as a slim female in my mid thirtieswhonisnt hugely exposed to the virus my chances of ending up in ITU with this are significantly less than me ending up in ITU after a car accident. Reassuring I guess in a slightly morbid way!!!

Alex50 · 24/04/2020 22:33

I far as I can see from the numbers I can find only 5 people died from coronvirus who under 20 and most of those had under lying health issues, put’s into prospective regarding schools

BBCONEANDTWO · 24/04/2020 22:34

I know 2 people who tested positive. On 60 year old male doctor and one 40+ female key worker (admin NHS). Both self isolated for 2 weeks and had fever, cough, metal taste, fatigue. Both back at work fully fit.

tbf I was worried about the male doctor as he's slightly overweight and likes a good drink but he's fine now.

Naturalbornkiller · 24/04/2020 22:36

I think the figure for deaths outside the shielded group - so under 60 and no known health conditions is 80 - that's 80 deaths in total for the uk.

For under 17 there have only been 3 deaths worldwide and they all had pre existing health problems.

When you look at those figures you wonder what's really going on. Locking down a whole country, really?

Xtinalee · 24/04/2020 22:40

@Alex50 under 20 maybe, what about 20-50 !!

Alex50 · 24/04/2020 22:41

@Xtinalee that isn’t correct look at the numbers, if they die in hospital there death will be recorded.

Alex50 · 24/04/2020 22:44

Very small numbers up to 40, then 40 to 50 they start to go up but still marginal until 60

Xtinalee · 24/04/2020 22:54

Still it’s unexplained about the ‘healthy’ people. No one is invincible. I’m very anxious

DaisylovesDonald · 24/04/2020 22:59

The problem with the way the news reports the cases is that they inevitably focus on the ones that are newsworthy and have shock value. So they really highlight the younger victims even though there are actually not that many. And because they’re all over the news we end up with the impression that it’s much more common than it really is whereas actually they’re in the news because they’re not common at all. That’s my take on it anyway.

DaisylovesDonald · 24/04/2020 23:00

It is true that no one is invincible but that applies to literally any possible cause of death.

Xtinalee · 24/04/2020 23:09

There’s still too many. Does anyone know if I’m right to assume the people who usually end up in bed with flu and colds are the ones who would be harder hit with it ? Like if someone is asymptomatic it’d usually be someone who doesn’t usually get ill with flu ? Hope that makes sense

Theluggage15 · 24/04/2020 23:09

I understand that some of the ‘healthy’ people they mention were obese, obviously not helpful if you are obese but worth pointing out. They don’t seem to include obesity as an underlying medical condition.

Confusedbutheyho · 24/04/2020 23:10

@nuitdesetoiles how have you arrived at the conclusion that ‘these people’ (teachers) are all a healthy group?

I mean I do see their point teaching large numbers of children in close proximity.

Sunshinegirl82 · 24/04/2020 23:14

My dad died of sepsis 2 years ago. Around 48,000 people die every year from sepsis in the U.K. alone. It has been estimated that 11 million people die worldwide from sepsis every year, that is 1 in every 5 deaths.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-51138859

I’m not saying this to be alarmist but to demonstrate that whilst coronavirus should be taken seriously we do need to keep the risk it poses to us in proportion.

If you are relatively young and healthy you have a very low risk of dying as a result of the virus. We should all act in a manner that protects the vulnerable but the individual risks is low.

Most people wouldn’t give it a second thought from one day to the next and rightly so.

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