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“Viruses don’t exist” - Where is this bizarre claim coming from?

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Namine20 · 19/04/2020 09:52

I keep seeing on Twitter and other so-called media certain people saying this over and over again. They claim viruses are really exosomes which already live in our body and flare up when we get stressed, and that there’s no such thing as a virus!!

Are there any scientists on here who can explain why some believe this as I find it bizarre? And anyone at all actually who can help me to respond to actual people I know who believe that all of this is a plan to gain control/police state and that they just want to take our freedoms away? Also a lot of people seem to believe 5G is the cause of ALL of this.

I know I shouldn’t bother to argue back but I want to be able to say something rational as these people are dangerous stating there’s no such thing as viruses.

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bruffin · 20/04/2020 02:20

It's people like Susan Humphries and Stefan lanka.
Susan Humphries a antivax nephrologist turned homeopath
Stefan Lanks claimed measles didnt exist and made a £100000 bet that nobody could prove it did.

oracle699 · 21/09/2020 22:14

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BillywilliamV · 21/09/2020 22:18

I think it was Dr Oetker..before he started doing sprinkles

ItsGoingTibiaK · 21/09/2020 22:30

@oracle699

You want a rational answer?

Yes please. What you wrote wasn’t even legible, never mind rational.

ItsGoingTibiaK · 21/09/2020 22:35

@Namine20

I keep seeing on Twitter and other so-called media certain people saying this over and over again. They claim viruses are really exosomes which already live in our body and flare up when we get stressed, and that there’s no such thing as a virus!!

Are there any scientists on here who can explain why some believe this as I find it bizarre? And anyone at all actually who can help me to respond to actual people I know who believe that all of this is a plan to gain control/police state and that they just want to take our freedoms away? Also a lot of people seem to believe 5G is the cause of ALL of this.

I know I shouldn’t bother to argue back but I want to be able to say something rational as these people are dangerous stating there’s no such thing as viruses.

It’s essentially the throughly debunked terrain theory. Here’s a quick overview but, as always with Wikipedia it’s good to use it as a jumping point for further research.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germ_theory_denialism

Have you seen the guy who produced the “viruses don’t exist” video months ago who starts off with his “credentials”. The main one being he’s so intelligent he was accused of cheating at an IQ test because his score was so high!

eufycurious · 21/09/2020 22:36

@donquixotedelamancha

Are there any scientists on here who can explain why some believe this

Yes. I'm a Scientist. I'll try to simplify some of the very complex Science behind this phenomemenon:

Some people are fucking stupid.

That gave me a much needed laugh!
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