Are you going to send your kids back in when they reopen?

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Wondering if people will send them back.
As they think only 4-10% of population might have had it. And this peak was only 4w of school.
Im not shielding but isolating as much as possible because im
asthmatic.

I hope they say attendance isnt mandatory so people who need to/want to or are still WFH can keep them home if needed.

Also the risk at schools is not lower than at workplaces. I don't trust any modelling that says that.
At my workplace people was their hands, it is easy to use a tissue to open door handles.
I don't hug my work colleagues, play with their hair, or all the many things my kids do at school.
Seriously why do you think nits is such an issue in schools but not in the workplace? Because work colleagues are not in close physical contact and as adults are able to safeguard ourselves better in terms of hygiene.

Fucking right I am.

For the teen I won’t have much choice, no online learning and he’ll want to be with his friends. I am concerned though as he’s had an ambulance situation with mild asthma and I do not want to revisit.

My level of stress and comfort increases with time given so I hope it’s not very soon.

And yes WHO have had it right all along, the science our government say they are relying on has been proved wrong. It is not just a mild cold and lots of people have died.
I am buggered if I am trusting my kids lives to the governments lies. Others can do whatever they want, but it is my job to protect my kids and that is what I will do.

I understand that people question the government they are not solely using the measure of what’s safe wrt schools.

I could home school if very early but my teen would very much be upset at missing out. Idk difficult.

And yes WHO have had it right all along

No human to human transmission

Do not shut borders

I am sure there are plenty of others........

@alloutoffucks is that a joke! The WHO said on Jan 23 that this virus doesn’t pass human to human.

I wouldn’t. I think sep but that levels will rise again and schools will shut for a second time

Mine will go back as long as they don't reopen this side of May and the peak has passed. We don't have any health issues in the family and their social needs are important. I don't like the idea of it, but for our family it seems like the right choice. I wonder if they'll do a phased return?

That is scaremongering. It will not take years until there is a vaccine or until this is under control.

Plenty of experts in vaccine development, including in this country, have said it could be at least 18 months to 2 years before a vaccine is available at a mass population level. There is a chance if everything goes perfectly, and regulatory and testing barriers are collapsed (with attendant risk) that it could be sooner, optimally (and this really is if everything goes perfectly) going into manufacture by October. Like everyone I’m madly hoping for this. But I’m not blindly counting on it.

Until there is a vaccine all experts agree that this virus will be circulating at some level in the community. Again, I’m hoping that there is some shithot test and trace to contain the virus but that won’t eliminate the risk, particularly as many countries are only just starting to get it. I’m also hoping for more effective treatments and have friends running promising clinical trials that may reduce the risk of you do get ill.

Stating that it may be a very long time before a vaccine is available, and recognising that if you are committed to keeping your children isolated until one is available that may be what you’re signing up for, isn’t scaremongering. It’s accurately stating the balance of risk.

Which brings me back to my original question - when people say they won’t send their children back to school until it’s ‘safe’, how are they defining safe?

Yes because I work 9-5, even if I wfh and can't teach DD. She is in Y8, she needs school not a fumbling around parent. And when the situation is more normal I need to be back in the office anyway.

DD needs school for social reasons as well, I can see signs of anxiety and depression as she really struggles with the situation.

Also, I am sure DH and I had it and therefore likely that DD had it as well, I had an infected colleague and felt quite bad for a day or two without knowing he had it until over a week passed, put it aside as a cold. I am sure lots of us did it similar.

And no, it is not inevitable that everyone gets corona. So far it is estimated 10% of the population have had it and lots of people have died.
But in other countries most of the population have not had corona virus and WHO is saying it is not inevitable everyone gets it.
I trust WHO way more than random people on the internet or our own government.

* Call me old fashioned but for me the kids come first, always.*

I had a chuckle at this

So the people who won’t send them back to school until a vaccine has been tested, deemed safe and is rolled out. That could be a year or 18 months away. Do you work? Are you going to home school.

I for one will be Ok with the schools going back.

@JassyRadlett They are talking about 18 months to 2 years to vaccinate everyone. That is because it takes time to make. But there is lots of research to show that you only have to vaccinate a small percentage of the population to safeguard most people.
So it may be that long till everyone is vaccinated. But once the smaller percentage is vaccinated of super spreaders, then the risk becomes much lower.

I’m high risk and my kids are too young to follow proper hygiene/social distancing rules.

So as long as I’m being advised to stay home, they’ll be staying with me.

An acquaintance on Facebook sent me a rather snotty message saying I shouldn’t be sacrificing their education for my own reasons, and I had to point out that bereavement would probably be worse for them overall than missing school.

allout you are essentially trusting a political organisation.

They are not independent sadly. That is clear by the way China manipulated them.

Yes. Two reasons:

1. I'm a part-time key worker, so no choice but to send in at least two days a week!
2. I reckon DD is at significant risk from damage to her mental health. She's an only child and our only living relative lives overseas. There's only so much isolation a small person can take, IMHO.

@alloutoffucks by your maths there that means that the death rate is 0.16%. Which I believe is correct. Any that is not worth the humanitarian disaster and death count we have coming our way.

* Anyone who trusts the ‘science’ is an idiot they are making things up to suit themselves. *

And you say you’re not a conspiratorilist?

This statement could be on the cover poster for conspiracy theorists!

Also the risk at schools is not lower than at workplaces. I don't trust any modelling that says that.

Always refreshing to see a mind open to considering new evidence.

I dont think opening schools will be about it being any safer.
It's a conflict of interest for the gov. They want schools back for the economy.
They have already gone extremely wrong so far with their following certain science about herd immunity (which isn't necessarily going to work).
They worked out if they release the 20-30yo then about 630 of them would die. Not sure how the numbers of teenagers compare but that could be a similar number of them too. (Plus obviously teachers on top).
We also cannot compare to other countries - china etc as the kids wear masks to school.

Also I can't imagine teachers who are vulnerable are going to be keen to return to work very soon. Especially those teaching young ones.

My decision making has nothing to do with money or work.

I trust the science. I trust public health England.

Mine won’t be going back before the Summer holidays we’ve already decided that. He’s asthmatic and dh is vulnerable so we are shielding at the moment. If the schools go back in August It will depend on how things are looking then. He probably has to go back at some point but I can’t see that it’s going to be easy.