To be losing all respect for the police?

[GroundHogDay01]

Earlier this week a man was being told he cannot sit in his front garden. Now we have a man being threatened to be pepper sprayed for absolutely no reason.

The public are going to lose faith in the police. My DH was being racially abused once and a couple of officers just walked on by.

I think the police need a huge shake after this. It’s not good enough to be issuing apologies after they’ve been caught bang to rights doing something wrong

Thoughts?

@Flaxmeadow I was actually referring to the post by @BiBiBirdie who was stopped & threatened before lockdown was announced. They had no right to do this as people still had their freedom

I hate the idea of us becoming like some parts of the US. It's exactly why I am totally against arming all officers. If they had guns now, I wouldn't put it past some of the ones I've seen shooting people. The video of the guy taking food to vulnerable people in Manchester for instance, that officer was acting completely outside the law/guidance no matter how many times he said "the covid 19 law". There's no doubt in my mind an officer like that who was clearly racially profiling the male wouldn't have opened fire if he was armed. It happens all the time in the US.
They're the epitome some of them of people who got bullied in school so now they're warning a uniform society will pay for it.

@GroundHogDay01 and even if it had of been when lockdown came in I still wasn't flouting anything.

We live in a cul de sac and today almost every house had their front door open and people were sat on their steps playing a game of bingo (don't judge, we were bored and the prizes included wine!)
No one left their property and social distancing was observed. Bingo cards had been delivered earlier through the letterbox and prizes were going to be left on doorsteps.
Someone phoned the police who came to visit, confirmed we were all in our own houses and then told us to carry on having a lovely afternoon.

@DurhamDurham
I live in a cul-de-sac
That's a brilliant idea to pass the time.
Thanks.

I thought ours were doing really well until they tweeted that they’d patrolled the “non essential” aisles in Tesco and found them empty of people. Red faced chief constable and swiftly deleted tweet.

@BiBiBirdie

Sadly thats what i thought re social profiling.

Thats why when you posted on the other thread i asked you what sort of area you live in.

@BiBiBirdie of course you weren’t flouting. It’s heavy handed policing

If you think recent studies by some of the best universities and scientists in China and Europe are amateur

Lovely, unless the study is by someone from a comparable field (for the avoidance of doubt, policing isn't), that study is, by definition, amateur. No matter how good the material is, quality of presentation is all in the digestion. Which, by a police officer (or most of us), is amateur.

@ParkheadParadise

Enjoy! It was an enjoyable way to pass a couple of hours, there's going to be a quiz tomorrow apparently

@HelenaDove it's quite well off, but there are some rentals here that are affordable as the council cracked down on HMO licences and non-licensed HMOs as well so landlords suddenly needed income and here we are.
Generally there is a good mix of people, son's huge houses a little further out, and another village that is one big 70s council estate where most people bought their homes in the 80s.
But yeah, the Police did not like me. They even had looked up my DP. He hasn't even been mentioned at this point by the woman. He was and he openly admits it, a bit stupid in his 20s, so 25 years ago. Nothing major just stupid male back in the nineties stuff. The officer who shouted in our doorstep brought it up. But it was said in a way that sounded like he was a murderer when it was the sort of thing you'd barely get arrested for now.
She was posh. We aren't. So to them, we are scum chavs worthy of Jeremy Kyle and she's Hyacinth Bucket.
I lost all respect for them.

I've seen a few people sat in their front gardens. But right up against the low front fence so in fact closer than 2m to anyone who passes their house.
Seems sensible to tell those people to not sit there. (Also people sat on their front door step which is directly onto the street)

But right up against the low front fence so in fact closer than 2m to anyone who passes their house.

Its up to the people on the pavement to practice safe distance not someone on their own property following government guidelines

So it may be a bit not on to sit right at the front of the front garden but it's private property and not illegal.

People walking past just give a swerve, not tricky.

People doing their front gardens round here, I mean, it's fine.

If we give the police power to say where people can or can't be on their own property then that's heading into something pretty grim.

And what about people who only have balconies for eg that may be close to others. They're not allowed out?

There was stuff on the news again today about people generally following rules, and police being told to tone it down. I think they have noticed over zealous approach from some angles and are keen to keep public onside.