Denmark mandatory Covid19 vaccine

[scamander]

Put aside vaxxer/antivaxxer hats for a little please. Does this bother anyone? Do people not have a choice? Are we losing our freedom before our very eyes?
 
'As well as enforcing quarantine measures, the law also allows the authorities to force people to be vaccinated, even though there is currently no vaccination for the virus'

www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.dk/20200313/denmark-passes-far-reaching-emergency-coronavirus-law/amp

[BungleandGeorge]

Out of interest did it actually include vaccination though, or just measures once you actually have the virus? I do t advocate either but prophylaxis and treatment are different things

[Jumbogirl]

@BungleandGeorge here is the link to the Spectator article

• see www.spectator.co.uk/article/denmarks-flirtation-with-mandatory-vaccination
  
  My understanding is that it was actually going to be mandatory vaxxing of certain occupations - but u-turn done now fortunately.

[ThatDamnScientist]

@BamboozledandBefuddled

Agree completely *@scamander* I'm not putting my health - or possibly my life - on the line to protect a specific group of people. It's going much too far

What specific group of people? You mean vulnerable, disabled, people with cancer? Did I miss any that you don’t give a shit about?

[Jumbogirl]

@ThatDamnScientist - What about those whose measles, hepB, rubella and pneumovax aren't up to date? Are we going to round up all the health professionals who can't prove this? They could pass this on to patients along with Covid.

Their body, their choice. You decide what to do with your body. I decide what to do with mine based on my own conscience of course and yours. If you disagree, by all means shout it from the rooftops and do your best to persuade others of your stance. I may well decide to have the vax but I fully support the rights of everyone to make their own decision - that's how democracy, medical ethics and consent works.

[BungleandGeorge]

@Jumbogirl
If that is reported accurately it’s quite terrifying. I honestly don’t think that is how things work in the UK, it’s just not something we ‘do’

HCP aren’t required to have any vaccines. A lot of people will opt to have them as HCP are obviously at much higher risk of contracting infections. It’s pretty limited what is offered though, Hep B if you’re likely to come into contact with blood, flu, possibly measles but not much else

[BonnieDundee]

Unfortunately most people really don’t have the knowledge to understand the science. If people are unwilling to trust anything that people more knowledgeable than themselves say then humanity is doomed

I would happily say that I dont understand the science behind this. But how can we trust those same experts who have already misled us in order to frighten us so that they will get good uptake on the vaccine which will profit them greatly

That presentation was a massive own goal

[giantangryrooster]

Just to comment on the headline of op. Vaccination in Denmark is voluntary.

www.altinget.dk/artikel/her-er-vaccineplanen-alle-danskere-faar-tilbudt-en-gratis-og-frivillig-vaccination

[Jumbogirl]

Yes that's right - right now it is voluntary thanks to 9 days of full-on massive protests outside the Danish Parliament. Not mentioned in that hallowed people's rights publication the Guardian or elsewhere other than the Spectator

• see //www.spectator.co.uk/article/denmarks-flirtation-with-mandatory-vaccination

[squeekums]

@Stellaris22

I get having concerns.

But are you not worried about long term effects (which we already know about and affects even young and healthy people) of post covid and the life changing effects of having the virus.

well depends really
Aus government has given indemnity to vaccine makers but wont say what that covers
My guess is sever reaction lawsuits and payouts, the companies wont be held responsible if someone has a bad reaction.

thenewdaily.com.au/news/2020/10/09/government-grants-covid-19/

That alone is enough for me to say, what they hiding/worried about. Why the need to do that if its all so safe and above board with testing.
Is it an admission of the long term affects could be really bad?
Why the need to free pass the makers?

[notimagain]

Is it an admission of the long term affects could be really bad?

No, it's called insurance.

[squeekums]

@notimagain

Is it an admission of the long term affects could be really bad?

No, it's called insurance.

Then why is not applied to ANY other vaccine
Why take away a persons legal footing for help if they get screwed up?
Its dodgy and ruins trust. If they want our trust to jab something in our body, we should have a legal standing if it fucks up

[notimagain]

Then why is not applied to ANY other vaccine

That's one for those with detailed knowledge of the industry but it strikes me this might be the first release of a mass mass use vaccine in the post Wakefield/Social Media/campaigning era...

Maybe drugs companies perceive they are mush more likely these days to become enmeshed in a legal process.

[notimagain]

mush?..much

[CountFosco]

It's not the first vaccine with indemnity, I know the Swine Flu vaccine had indemnity, don't know which others have but knowing the history I'd assume it was introduced in the 1950s after the Cutter Incident. Basically in a pandemic the world's governments wants a vaccine rolled asap and so they take the financial risk of rare complications.