Brexit and coronavirus

[Eurobop]

So do you think Brexit puts us in a better place to cope with coronavirus (eg we’ve done some preparatory work on securing supply lines), are we worse off (eg not participating in group procurement of ventilators) or is its impact likely to be neutral when all is said and done?

Whatever your opinion of Brexit, it is crazy to be fighting two battles at the same time.

Worse.

Much worse

I don't think it has much impact. The measures taken to deal with the disease and the final outcomes (when known) are likely to differ between EU countries let alone those outside it.

I was thinking about this last night.

It was in relation to the fact that our figures may surpass Italy's and we may become Pariahs when trying to enter other European countries.

So, worse.

Italy is proposing that EU should debt share to spread cost of pandemic across all of EU

Are we now clear of an initiative such as that?
(Which is at present just one country’s public suggestion, not adopted policy)

Worse. I also think the NHS staff shortages/reliance of EU workers and panic buying during the pandemic exposes the bravado of no deal.

Worse. I takes more than Ideology and bluster and drinking pints wearing a flat cap to manage a crisis.
It’s an international problem and it will take a lot of cooperation to find long term solutions.
If we went along the isolationist route and tried to only treat and vaccinate our own population with an I’m all right jack, bugger the rest of the world, it won’t work.
So yes, much worse.

Worse, it gives government a heck of a lot to do, managing impact of global recession puts us at disadvantage when it comes to negotiating new terms as EU,

Plus we will need to invest massively in NHS as this isnt "over", covid19 isnt just going to vanish.

And the number of civil servants already engaged in Brexit planning whilst rewriting our laws..
How many countries will have negotiating trade treaties with the UK as a priority when they are trying to put their economies back together?

It just beggars belief how over the past 4 years we have, as a country, appeared to have had an absolute talent for making the wrong decision concerning matters of national importance.

I mean, what is wrong with us !!

The planning for brexit is going to look like alot of money wasted. Such a self indulgence.

*It just beggars belief how over the past 4 years we have, as a country, appeared to have had an absolute talent for making the wrong decision concerning matters of national importance.

I mean, what is wrong with us !!*

This

I think the EU have enough to deal with -

the Guardian

Better - much of the no deal planning has been implemented for Covid-19 in terms of supply chains.

We are also completely out of the EU come December and thus off the hook in terms of liability for bailing out others.

Germany finanances are in a bad way, when the German finance minister commits suicide things must be bad,
m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/german-minister-commits-suicide-after-virus-crisis-worries/amp_articleshow/74877039.cms

Then there’s Italy ...,

www.forbes.com/sites/simonconstable/2019/06/20/doomed-how-theres-no-way-out-of-
the-debt-crisis-for-italy/amp/

And squabbling between EU countries:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52211650
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52224838