Fake Paramedic No Ambulances Tape - Whatsapp 9:40m

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You might get a highly convincing insider report from a fake ambo woman saying all ambulances are cancelled and corona will peak at Easter, a third of victims will be babies etc etc but no ambulances are coming etc etc

Bollocks. Delete.

The person who made this tape - almost certainly known to MN as many phrases are recognizable from the scaremongering on here - is being pursued by the police.

Cunts like this are quite easy to catch, luckily.

Whatsapp have made it so you can't forward something to multiple groups.

My aunt forwarded it to me. I knew it was fake from the minute she said asymptomatic people would start showing symptoms cos that's not how it bloody works lol

We might have laws against impersonating a paramedic?

Yes, I think there are impersonating any healthcare person? Wasn't someone arrested for impersonating a nurse a few years back (they even managed to get a job in a hospital)?

Unfortunately some people seem to enjoy the attention they get from forwarding this stuff. An acquaintance of mine works in the NHS and forwarded a hoax message which began with the phrase "the hospital called and said ..." People on the group understandably assumed the message was from this person and she had spoken to the hospital, I searched online and saw she had just forwarded on a popular hoax message. She definitely would have known that people would have thought it was from her personally

We could do with getting better at handling fake news. There are several guides about (trying to re-find the really good one I saw recently), but they almost all start with the number one technique: pause before you share.

How does fake news spread?
www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z6kxxyc

@HotPenguin Can I just ask - does this message involve being told someone has died? I have someone close to me who is utterly convinced they spoke to a hospital worker to say a relative had died of COVID-19. I have not heard of this message (and the person does have a mental health problem which may have deteriorated, however, I then heard someone else on the news saying something similar). It's just crossed my mind that that may be what has happened.

Does anyone have a copy of the message? This seems to have passed me by.

It is disturbing, the nonsense that people make up.

Sounds as bad as the letter from the doctor weeks ago. Claims like drinking warm water would kill it, as would getting lots of sun as aparantly heat kills this.
Doesn’t.L work. I’ve been drinking hot drinks for weeks and cannot shake it.

@canigooutyet I have seen quite a few claims like that - from "doctors" and "nurses" - none of whom are registered on the NHS consultants profiles (those who claim to be consultants) or the GMC/NMC register.

Now, they may have a different name on social media, but that's actually against the guidelines of the GMC (if giving medical advice) from what I understand.

Awful! I just don't get why people think of making stuff up like that?

I hope the woman is caught and made an example of.
What kind of sicko sits there and records that false information for the sole purpose of creating panic.

Shit, I actually found that really convincing for quite a while (until the bodies in ice skating rink bit).

Yes fake news

I knew she was talking crap One thing that would make sense out of what she was saying would be to turn ice rinks into mortuaries surely they would be easier and quicker to turn them into mortuaries than other buildings.

Ice rinks are considered standby mortuaries.

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-matter-of-days-before-milton-keynes-ice-rink-converted-into-emergency-mortuary-11966525

What was the point in doing this? The motive I mean...

The ice rink thing has a scrap of truth in it. As in they could be used. But it's become a phrase that those who want to spread fear are using. It's a soundbite that they think makes them sound official. I even saw an mner use it yesterday to in an attempt to convince others her version of current rules was the only right one.

Personally, I think we all have a responsibility to not send this shit on.

There could definitely be an offence in there. The man who did the fake yorkshire ripper tapes was looked for on and off for years. They did catch him and he received a custodial sentence. I cant really remember but I think it was to do with diverting an investigation and wasting resources. And of course pretending to be a healthcare worker is an offence. Wether the police chose to apply it or not is another case. But it definitely is wasting resources.

We get similar every Christmas here. 'My mate bob found a wallet. Inside was a drivers license and the address was near by so he went to the house to give back. The man who owned the wallet was so grateful he told bob a secret. He said 'there going to be a bombing at [insert any local shopping area] one saturday over christmas. You are a good person so I am telling you this so you keep your family away'

My dad worked in the Intelligence department for our police force. Every christmas they would receive thousands of 'tip offs' based on this text.

Anything outrageous sent round by social media is likely to be bollocks.

They have used an ice rink as a mortuary I think in Spain so that bit isn't as ridiculous as others are saying.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-spain-madrid-ice-rink-morgue-death-toll-china-covid-19-a9424541.html

she then said that her bosses said ‘people would be left to die at home’. Do you really think - even if that was the case - that they would openly say that to thousands of paramedics across the country

I do think that if/as numbers increase and resources are already in use some people older, frail etc will be "left to die at home". Hopefully with some community palliative care.

Our local ice rink is being prepared in case it's needed as a mortuary. The roads around it have had an emergency closure notice on them from now so that no one can approach the entrance. I really hope it isn't needed. There are news stories which reliably inform this is happening. (I always fact check something that sounds a bit wild).

@HonkersVonFlapperson no it wasn't about someone dieing but there seem to be a lot of these hoaxes around so it's possible your friend was victim of one.

So many myths circulating.
Ambulances are not being cancelled. The ambulance trusts are subcontracting to many private ambulance providers who might usually cover sporting events, festivals etc.
Ambulances are coping reasonably well at the moment.
111 call backs are a bit slow and use has surged.
People are not just being left: emergency healthcare apart from C19 continues as usual, although elective work has been minimised.
Some frail elderly or younger with advanced care plans won’t be transferred as it would be inappropriate to insist they die alone in a hospital. That’s nothing to do with C19.
Those needing palliation receive it from the community services - often GPs or clinical nurse specialists from the hospices, the same as always.
At the moment there are no age or condition restrictions on who is admitted to hospital or who receives ITU. If you are likely to benefit from being ventilated, you will be. Even if you’re 82 years old. Even if you have brittle asthma or other condition.

Nurse is not a protected title. Anyone can call themselves a nurse. The crime is in presenting yourself as a registered nurse for gain - fraud.
Those registered with HCPC do have protected titles and paramedic is one of those roles where it’s an offence to use the title.

We might have laws against impersonating a paramedic?

Paramedic is a protected title, so possibly something there.

Could possibly be under malicious communications, possibly up to 2 years in prison.