Will life ever be the same?

[Deblou43]

As with everyone I am so anxious about Covid 19
Will life ever go back to the way it was?
Seeing family
Nightclubs
Pubs
Holidays
Parties
To name a few
Scary times

Within a month you'll see black markets, bootlegging and profiteering.
Capitalism will return with a vengeance.

I don't for a minute believe that this is some kind of correction, after which we will all appreciate family, friends and the simpler things in life.

Most flights are nothing to do with visiting family

I love the blue skies and low pollution levels and would hope we could keep some of that

My grandparents lived through WWII, witnessed the destruction of Europe by the nazis, the mass killing of jews, they saw their city bombed to oblivion, they went hungry, cold and poor, were liberated by the Russians only to be ruled by them later on for decades etc..
Would I like to trade places with them and experience all that they have? No, thank you very much, I’d rather live under lockdown for a couple of weeks/months, washing my hands regularly, practicing hygiene routines and social distancing and shutting the fuck up as I have a safe place to live, food to eat, nice things to wear and internet at my fingertips.
FFS people, have some perspective!

I’d rather live under lockdown for a couple of weeks/months, washing my hands regularly, practicing hygiene routines and social distancing and shutting the fuck up as I have a safe place to live, food to eat, nice things to wear and internet at my fingertips

You know that experience isn’t the same for everyone though don’t you? Those who have lost their jobs and are worried about putting a roof over their heads. Those who are living with abusers, so don’t have a safe place to live. Those who are still working in keyworker roles in unsafe environments. Those who are worrying about family members working in unsafe environments. Those who are struggling to put food on the table.

I think a lot of small businesses and some larger will go under. From the knock on affect, for example my nail shop. When they're able to open again they'll have fewer customers, the cleaners, childminders, retail, leisure centre workers will have their own financial difficulties and won't be able to afford to go in, if they do tips will be down and the owner has always said it's the walk ins and regular customer tips that keep them going. Same for local cafes by the health centre I work at, the hairdressers and the card shops etc. We're in London but a fairly deprived area so when the normal businesses resume the Pret, Costa will do ok but the places the locals would usually use will go under.

People always say 'puts things into perspective' that lasts 3 minutes until they carry on as they were and once this passes I think we will go back to how life was, all commuting at rush hour, all back in the office even though it was clear we can work from home in some cases...might take a while but will pass and go back to how it was

I hope not. I think we should be reassessing what matters.

Do we need to travel into offices to do a job that can be done at home?

Do we need to travel to different countries several times a year?

Do we need to shop constantly?

Yes of course it will, we don't know exactly when yet but we'll reach a point where cases drop, treatments and testing is readily available and eventually a vaccine is introduced. There will be changes of course, but then life is constantly changing anyway. We'll have to be prepared to live with a degree of social distancing for a while and be prepared to listen when the government asks us to do something, we may well even have a double dip lockdown. But yes, we will get back to normal, we will be happy and live our lives again and before long this will be a distant memory. Stay positive and protect your mental health because the end of all this is coming

Of course it will. We will go out and we will forget and we will touch and we will laugh and we will heal and it will be fine .

Thing is @Kalifa a huge proportion of people didn’t process what was happening in Wuhan in January as something that could ever happen to them. Why would they? We’ve had extraordinarily comfortable lives here, certainly nothing on this scale in anyone’s life time (bar a few exceptional cases who are over 100 and grew up with it fresh in their parents minds).

Your grandparents experience (very similar to my own grandparents) is something I can hear about and learn about but I have no reference in my own life experience to truly comprehend a lot of it. I know it must have been awful but I can’t replicate what they felt.

Cut people some slack. This is a moment in history that is hard, perhaps harder because our only evidence of an end and an after is in history books. It’s hard for people to gain perspective on something without an individual reference.

I think when we get a vaccine yes it will be back to normal.
ITV news reported of whuhan attempting to return to normal today. Yet more cases of the virus have begun to emerge. Guess that’s going to be the issue for now until we can vaccinate.

I hope so in some ways, but not in others.

A radical reset of public attitudes to debt-fuelled consumerism would benefit us all. After all, buying tons of disposable crap at Primark and spending hundreds of pounds a month to rent a shiny new car (which you can’t afford to actually buy) in order to impress people you don’t like doesn’t seem quite so important now, does it?

In a decade it’ll seem like a tiny moment in time. Right now it’s all consuming.

There will be a huge financial depression which will impact everyone for a long time. But it’s all cyclical.

I feel quite zen about it today (but will revert to terrified again soon).

I'm hoping less travel by air and road, less spending, more enjoyment of simple things.
I'd love to think we'll start paying people who work in certain jobs (nhs but also carers, cleaners etc) better but I doubt it.

Agree with all this. But I won’t hold my breath.

Nightclubs?

• Nightclubs? shock*

Yes, some people enjoy them Summerofloaf. Not me personally but I guess they must be fairly popular or they wouldn’t exist.

Of course it will. As soon as pubs etc reopen they will be packed out as normal.

Nothing will change after we come out of this. People, companies, everything will go back to their old ways.
Like a chainsmoker who gets a healthscare. He puts the ciggie down until he is told it was a false alarm, then picks the ciggie up again like nothing happened. Human nature.

@daisydukes7576 you're not a snowflake. Big hugs to you

Yes. It will just be a memory. We'll probably learn very little on a global scale. But I think as individuals and companies we may see some positive changes.

When we come out of recession.

Hoffi

Yep, America, Canada, Spain, Italy, Pakistan, and numerous other places.
I just like to be part of the solution not part of the problem, not being bloody selfish and that.

Of course .

I'm scared that it won't but hopeful that it will.

I'm scared people won't interact in the same way. I live on my own so I rarely see people in real life any more and, even before lockdown, we were social distancing. I haven't hugged anyone in about a month and that has surprisingly negative effects, I think. I'm afraid that will never change. That people won't want to touch any more.

I'm scared private schools won't survive this (morally, I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing but I work in one so, purely selfishly, I don't want to lose my job!)

I'm scared we won't be able to travel easily. I know it's bad for the environment but, as someone with no children or pets and with a very basic, generally sustainable lifestyle, travel is my vice of choice. I only fly once every 2 years or so but they're incredible, life changing trips and I want some more of them.

I'm scared people won't bother to meet up as much face to face and will just zoom because it's easier. My mental health depends on being out of the house most of the time. Lockdown is killing me and I'm afraid some people like it and want it to stay.

But I tell myself I'm catastrophising with those thoughts. I hope I am.

At least we know what to do now if a really nasty one comes along... something highly contagious and more lethal

I wish we could keep the lack of traffic and the lack of pollution, I'd happily give up travelling for that!