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The exit plan and schools.

611 replies

NeverGuessWho · 05/04/2020 13:58

I know this whole thread will be hearsay, but I’m just interested in hearing people’s opinions of where schools are likely to fit in to the exit plan?

A friend thinks they will be opened early on, as this will free up more people to work, and hence enable furloughed workers to return to work. This will crucially save money.

IMHO, schools will be one of the last restrictions to be lifted. Once schools are opened, there will effectively be multiple mass gatherings in every town and city, all at the same time. Surely this will result in a surge of cases of the virus.

Unless of course, they pursue the antibodies/certified passport route?

What do people think?

OP posts:
MarshaBradyo · 08/04/2020 13:06

Ha good one re ‘after Easter’ yep we can all go with that ;

aut0replenish · 08/04/2020 13:07

How can you open schools without stopping social distancing, surely we’re a long way off that. It’s nuts.

DBML · 08/04/2020 13:07

If the schools opened within 2 weeks of the Easter holiday and life got back to normal, with parents going back to work, I’d be over the moon.

Surely that would mean that planes would soon be back in the air and my month in the Florida Keys over the summer is back on! Whoop whoop!

aut0replenish · 08/04/2020 13:08

Picnic on our local beach in 2 weeks then, can’t wait for that either.

DBML · 08/04/2020 13:10

So sorry @LockdownLucy

It looks like life is getting back to normal in just a few weeks...therefore I’ll be in Florida so not able to teach throughout the summer holiday 😢 (🥳🥳)

aut0replenish · 08/04/2020 13:11

Wondering if I watch different news updates to others on here. At the weekend they were clearing sun bathers and talking about locking down even further if needs be . Not sure how opening schools fit in with that.Confused

DBML · 08/04/2020 13:11

Can’t wait to get to the shops to buy my new bikinis 😀

aut0replenish · 08/04/2020 13:13

Haircuts!!!!!!!

cantkeepawayforever · 08/04/2020 13:14

Xenia,

So, just to be clear, are you advocating the same for everyone -ie a return of everyone to all workplaces by all public transport, and an end to the 14 day self isolation rules and all social distancing?

Or just for all adults and children involved in education?#

If you are regarding these as acceptable risks for adults in education, but not in any other field, why?

From today, or are you going to allow the peak to subside a little?

DBML · 08/04/2020 13:15

@aut0!

It’s great isn’t it! Bikinis 👙 haircuts 💇‍♀️ and canoeing through the mangroves, pina coladas and scuba diving Alligator Reef.

aut0replenish · 08/04/2020 13:17

GrinBest get ahead and book now. Goodby grey roots! I’ll cancel the order for the hair clippers.

DBML · 08/04/2020 13:19

God yes, life is going back to normal from a week Monday! Definitely!

Starbucks anyone? (sit in of course) I’ll buy!

aut0replenish · 08/04/2020 13:26
Grin
LaProfesora · 08/04/2020 13:28

@DBML

WAIT FOR MEEEEE! Grin

LaProfesora · 08/04/2020 13:30

@DBML

Oooh ooooh wait for me! Vanilla latte for me please!

@LockdownLucy

Cancel the summer holidays? I don't think so Grin I have a week at the Mediterranean booked, thank you very much.

So yes, let's go back! Tomorrow even!!!

LaProfesora · 08/04/2020 13:32

@captainmarble
I'll say it again - they don't have to be PERFECTLY safe. But they have to be safe. Otherwise staff will go back, get ill and there will be so many people off sick, the schools will have to close again...

DBML · 08/04/2020 13:34

@LaProfesora!

Vanilla Latte! 😋
Can’t wait to see you!

LondonJax · 08/04/2020 13:41

We've had 9 bus drivers die from Covid 19 in London over the past few weeks. Apparently, according to Khan, the buses have now had the 'listening holes' you find in the perspex shield next to the driver, covered.

The supermarkets are installing perspex guards around both sides of the till operators. We're expected to queue outside shops and post offices 2 metres apart, then keep that distance when we're inside.

How does that get translated to a school? A perspex shield for the teacher? Half the class numbers so you can spread the kids out? How do half a dozen science teachers, for example, cover science in those circumstances when they normally teach a group of 30 and now have to cover two classes of 15? Do people think there are double the number of teachers to those used every day? Kept in the broom cupboard in case of emergency?

With shielding, those teachers who are sick, those with underlying health issues not being available we're likely to see doubling up of classes, not halving. Which goes completely against social distancing rules and all those implications.

And how do teachers handle break time? Cancel it? What about meal time? I work in a school of 2000 pupils. How do you move them around in an hour whilst social distancing? No 'jumping on your mates' as the boys are prone to do, no 'walking arm in arm', no running about afterwards or playing football. Seems straightforward? Kids aren't robots though - unless you reduce the size of the groups, you can't control their behaviour to that extent and there isn't the space in a school for social distancing with its normal numbers present.

As for hand washing - good luck. Unless you line up 2000 kids at specific times of the day you will always get those who don't do it. There are plenty of adults who don't do it so why we expect kids to be paragons of the soap dispenser I don't know! Kids share pens (usually chewed), food, equipment in class as they often have to share. No teacher will have time to wipe down a test tube before Ed passes it to Caitlyn in class - it's just not feasible. Plus Ed and Caitlyn will have to stand together to do the work!

Or do we open up to, say, year 1, 3 and 5 on Monday to Wednesday lunch time and year 2, 4 and 6 from Wednesday afternoon to Friday (similar for the secondary).

So, if you're being told to get back to work in your factory, driving your train or whatever, you'll only have your kids back at school for half the week. That works for social distancing but not for the economy.

And, of course, if you have children in year 1 and 4 in that scenario, you're buggered. You'll have a child on their own for part of the week - at the age of 5 or 6. Or you don't work. Like now. Or you try to find child care - just like all the rest of the parents who now only have a child in school for half a week.

Whichever way you slice it, this utopia of getting the schools open then every one can get back to work isn't possible whilst social distancing is needed.

We either do part time days or part time weeks or x years in on certain days and y years in on others and parents will just have to manage that. That's the stark reality. That or we have a hot bed of Covid 19. Because children are getting it now. Quite why I don't know, but they are now becoming victims where they weren't before.
Schools can't just flip back to the way they were before all of this.

And, of course, I can imagine the conversation in the bus companies when they call on bus drivers to take a double decker full of kids from their secondary school to home. If they don't then, again, it'll be down to the parents to get their kids there and back.

There is a lot of thought needed before the schools go back in the way many parents assume they will.

LaProfesora · 08/04/2020 13:45

@DBML

Me neither Flowers
Oh and after we've had coffee, I'm going to get my caterpillar eyebrows sortedGrin

LaProfesora · 08/04/2020 13:45

@LondonJax
Yes!!! Thank you!!!

Confuddledtown · 08/04/2020 13:47

I wonder how Northern Ireland will work it also as our school holidays are different. Our schools finish the last week of June, off for 9 weeks over July and August, and back 1st september. Theres rumours, and I stress they are rumours, of bringing the kids in over the summer holidays.

LondonJax · 08/04/2020 13:47

@LaProfesora. You're welcome. I'll have a latte please.

Now, just off to release those spare English teachers from the store cupboard and remove the 'in case of emergency' sticker from their bums in case they're needed in two weeks time...

Newgirls · 08/04/2020 13:48

Prof you are in a good place then - round here we get 20+ applications per post for TAs and 8+ for language at secondary. It prob depends on where you live/work. I’m glad you will be ok.

refraction · 08/04/2020 13:53

Does than mean we get our safety goggles back for the lab so we can teach the curriculum? Grin

LaProfesora · 08/04/2020 14:02

@LondonJax
Hahaha good idea!!!

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